Ok now that i have gotten some experience next step advice...

[Caballero2009]

Ok so after all the kind advice and responses... after reading some other older threads (my god alot and some negative stuff i saw too ... anyway I am ready to make the next step.

I really havent been able to find an agency other than jamies i feel comfortable with yet so i am going to order a few emails to start. I saw some ladies on their i am interested in. a few seems 20 but if i am correct in latin america the ladies are more mature for their age for many reasons. I like younger ladies anyway within reason of course and i feel 20-32 was my rule of thumb range for me.

So can anyone give any advice/comments would be any problems with 20 yr old lady mainly in the sense are latin ladies more mature for their ages and more family?

Any good experiences? Horror stories out there?  Part of it depends on YOU of course. Im pretty young looking and young at heart so i dont mind doing a range of things from mountain climbing... travelling... dancing til 4am or being at home for  aquiet evening its all good.

Any input?

Thanks!

[bcc_1_2]

oh man. advice on 20 year old girls/women. First, how old are you if i may ask?

second, definiately keep us all informed how this email address buying works (especially if you decide to stay at different lodging when you go down). If the ladies are willing and able to meet with you I think that should answer a lot of questions out there.

Caballero, I don't think its all negative. I know on this issue I am really just playing devil's advocate. I really sucks for the person who had trouble after he bought addresses, but luckily he found a girl. I'd say at least my goal in "being negative" is to just prevent wasted trips. I don't know about you but I can only get away from work so much.

[Kiltboy1]

I hate to tell you, but please, AND I MEAN PLEASE, do not go into this thinking that 20 year old Latinas/Colombians are more mature then there AW counterparts because in general, this is just not true. Yes, they are brought up more traditional, but they live very sheltered lives and have no worldly experience(Tradition does not Equal Maturity) . You can find some of course that are very mature, but IN GENERAL, they are not, so be careful not to put to much in the AGENCY HYPE ,

KB

[utopiacowboy]

KB is absolutely right.

[Researcher]

          KB and UC are correct. I can tell you from experience that the younger ones tend to change and most of the time not for the better.There is nothing wrong with wanting a younger woman but the 19 and 20 year olds never worked out for me and from what I've seen its rare that it works out for others.


 Researcher

[Montrealer]

KB, UC and RES are right.  The young ones sure are fun, but they are not mature.  I find a woman here becomes marriage minded around 24ish.  Usually once they finish University and move on to the next chapter in there lives.  When I met my wife she was 22, and she has made alot of changes since then, fortunately for me, most were for the better as I taught her a different way to see things and live and she watched and learned.

I remember there was a rule on how old your future wife should be.  The minimum should follow this math formula.

Your age divided by 2 and then add 7 = her minimum age
EX:  You are 40
40 / 2 = 20 + 7 = 27
If you are 40, your minimum age should be 27.

It's up to you whether you want to think of this as a wise rule or just a load of BS.

[Pivery]

  My two cents here, but because of the recession, not even sure it's even worth that now...

First how old you are and your hobbies matter to the ladies, but only generally. If you are 40, but are playful and youthful enough to pass as a 30-year old, that's only to your advantage. These ladies are not looking to sit in a rocking chair with you on the front porch anytime soon, so don't project that. I was 40 when I went down. Some ladies I encountered were wanting a man very close to their age, some wanted a man at least 10-years older, and some didn't care at all. So there are different types of women looking for something different in a man.

Some I encountered in the 20-22 year range just wanted to party like New Year's Eve every night with no intention of settling down into family life anytime soon. Not what I was looking for...

The 25+ range seemed to have a better head on their shoulders and kinda knew what they wanted at this point in their lives. However there is no set in stone rule here. You really have to sit down and rap with these women one-on-one to see where they are at. I had one lady that was 24 who thought I was too old for her and was extremely immature, and the next woman I dated was 23 and was as mature thinking as a 30-year old. She ended up being my lady now.

What a deal: A 23-year old body with a 30-year old mature mind!  Works for me!!!

Pivery

[Caballero2009]

To answer Early thirties, like activies of all types from mountain climbing to the beach, young at heart and always have looked younger than i was. So lots going for me there. I hope most 40 year old guys arent in rocking chairs! I know some 40+ who are more fun and out going than some in their 20's!

im looking for a decent looking latin lady who wants a good happy home. Sometimes i wonder what other guys envision when they look for a lady thru an agency like Jaimes. Do they have realistic expectations? Do they have maybe expectations that are too low for most guys ? Too high desires? I think i have medium to above average expectations.

I am not looking for a model...nor do i want someone who doesnt meet my minimum built in "feeling" that shes for me... physical SURELY isnt everything but you need to feel attracted to someone for lengevity to some degree.

I might ask that as a separate qiestion.

[raycjs]

I found that 90% of the Colombian women under 24 where not ready for marrage. Please listen to the guy's on this board that are married to Colombian women we know what we are talking about we live with them everyday of our lives.




best of luck
Ray

[minotoro]

KB, UC and RES are right.  The young ones sure are fun, but they are not mature.  I find a woman here becomes marriage minded around 24ish.  Usually once they finish University and move on to the next chapter in there lives.  When I met my wife she was 22, and she has made alot of changes since then, fortunately for me, most were for the better as I taught her a different way to see things and live and she watched and learned.

I remember there was a rule on how old your future wife should be.  The minimum should follow this math formula.

Your age divided by 2 and then add 7 = her minimum age
EX:  You are 40
40 / 2 = 20 + 7 = 27
If you are 40, your minimum age should be 27.

It's up to you whether you want to think of this as a wise rule or just a load of BS.

I need a 22 year old then =)

[drm64]

Cabby,

I echo the thoughts shared already. I am married to a Colombian now for 18 months and she is living here with me in Ohio. There are several ideas that gringos have about Colombian women that are just too general and wrong. I have to agree with the guys on what they have said about maturity. Maturity is a result of life experience and the reality is, a girl at 20 here has experienced much more that a Colombian girl. For example, you can find many women there in their mid 20's who have never worked. You will see this in agency profiles. I thought this was very strange before my first trip, but after going and seeing the lack of opportunity, I understood. Such a girl will not have the same maturity level as a girl here who has been to college, lived on her own, worked and provided for herself. Another myth, latin women are all fiery passionate. Wrong. We are also told they are old fashioned in that they are domestic and prefer to be at home and care for husband and children. Some women are not domestic. Some have had maids and have never taken care of a home. Some want a career. Take each woman as an individual and do not make assumptions or generalities on account of their culture.

[sabound]

oh really now !!!!!! all I have heard for years now is how they 19-20 are so mature for there age .....

SOME  guys are now getting a little wiser in there old age !!!!!!!!!

[Caballero2009]

Drm64 thanks again.

You know again this is fine example why i come here!

Nice post... its that push when i need it some days.

Frankly all of this has been daunting for me. I am surely not used to all this "internet" searching. It really isnt as easy as it may seem if you are doing it non-passively.

Yes I agree with you drm BUT that said sabound made a interesting point.

I will say that i have ALSO been told for many years "Girls in south america and colombia are so mature at 20 unlike american women because of their situation in general of their country"

Now should you take each on a case by case basis  --- of course... i always do and try not to generalize too badly.

BUT that said the general consensus has been... younger girls are mature for their ages.

Is what sabound somehwat correct you have gained experience over time and changed your view? which is why "archives" may not be the end all be all... things change... situations change... the atmosphere changes and i do ask for more current dynamic input.

I really do look for ranges 20-30 i would say really 20-27.  Im trying to be as open as i can be.

I guess im leaning toward Jamies agency. but keeping options open til my trip in late fall.

I just wish i knew more about Bogota agencies/dating services.

[Pivery]

  Well, the whole formula for the age you should be looking for, and no girl under a certain age is mature is subjective from what I have seen down there. Every woman is going to be different. One lady I met was totally pampered with lots of $ and a house maid from birth so she had no concept of working (A 26 yr. old) I found a lady there who was more mature than I am! (A 31 year old - I'm 40) I found one lady that just wanted to party all of the time like it was New Year's Eve every night. (A 24 year old) And I found a lady that had to work 6 days a week to help support her family and was extremely mature and had a good head on her sholders (A 23 year old).

Yes, some have no concept of working and some ladies I encountered that never held a job were in their 30's!
So good luck if you need them to help you financially if you two marry...

Take each woman on her own and see what her family experiences are. I think I am more of a kid than my lady is and I am 17 years older than her. Everyone has a different situation so it just depends on her personally.

Pivery