OH yea further really important question for people with experience on it

[Caballero2009]

Ok so i do have a question about agencies girls:

When using an agency Jamies or another... do they have portfolios of ladies in the office you can choose from to meet that are not on the websites. I was hoping for some more choices I didnt see a lady that truly screamed out at me on the website the way id think at least one should. There were some interesting choices for sure. But il be honest... if i plan to drop 1000+ dollars on any tour/vacation i definately want to know I have more choices that are pretty close to what I want. I know i have milled on this subject for awhile. I feel bad i only can go by picture for now. But thats why i want to go down there in the near future.

I am not looking for a model.. altho physical is somewhat important to me, i want the whole package and being cute is only part of that.That said, there is a look i look for in a lady since i have to go by pics on a site for now.

I checked out jamies site briefly at lunch today. i wasnt sure how its organized past the ages... are the first pics newer girls and as you go down list girls who joined longer ago?

Regardless, how does it work really?  Could some one give me a general "How it (the trip and lady setups) works for any good agency and then tell me how Jaimes specifically works. I want to go down in maybe summer... yea thats 3 months away but that time will fly by im sure.

So my question starts with Jaimes agency tour:

So i go down there and housing is provided? Theres an office im hearing is close to town events/things? So how do the girls get selected in reality? Do i select most/all/some? Back to my other question: say i want alternative options not just "from the website". For $1000+ i would want to know theres a few girls that 90%-100% meet my requirement then have the wild cards that obviously i cant know about too much because they are a picture on a web page but yet could surprise you and be "the one".

My idea as it stands... and of course i could be dreaming is this: I choose a few from the web site. Jaime or whoever chooses a few. Then i see a book when i arrive and see wow choices not on the website... i see 2 that just look pefect for me its the look i always wanted! I select those to meet... does that sound kinda the way it works?? it is confusing for a newb to all this. so bare with me

Ok so next would this be the same for an agency in Bogota? any advice/experience appreciated.

I have heard about "assistants" who are with you 10-18hrs a day sometimes!! holy moly that sounds interesting... what type of arrangement is it? they stay at the office? shes on call to help with ladys whenever you need it? I think it would be nuice to have input from a girl from there whose GOOD at it..i wouldnt have patience for someone who isnt really since im there and a paying customer dropping that much. From what im hearing these girls are darn good. Could any one elborate from experience about their assistants real experiences there?

Its alittle scary believe it or not kinda putting these important things into others hands to this degree.

Its all new to me really im thankful and sorry in advance for being such a newbie too all this i know some people here are experienced and well thats why im here.

Well start here!

Thanks

[sabound]

go back to the archives and all of your answers will be there . To each his own on what works for them . I married my first Colombia wife back in 1985 , met her at a bar in Bogota ... Most guys here didn't even know where Colombia was or even Bogota ,Cali , or Barranquilla back in 1985 ... the real good old days . Cost me less than $2000 and 2 weeks after I met her she was in the states .

[Pivery]

Caballero,

If you want to pm me, I can give you a pretty good idea of the goings on at Jamie's.

Pivery

[Dave H]

I married my first Colombia wife back in 1985 , met her at a bar in Bogota ...

Hi sabound,

This is alongshot, but did you accompany a friend to Colombia who was meeting a lady there? She brought her friend along to the bar. I met guy who did that in 1985. I see the ex-wife and daughter once in a while.

Dave

[bcc_1_2]

ok first, if you cant find some women on Jamie's website that you'd like to meet.. then all I can say is damn. Even in the limited age range I search for I could definiately get a list going of girls. If you check out a bunch of agenices websites and can't get a list going maybe you should be flying to Russia or Thailand.

http://www.calicharm.com
http://www.allcolombiangirls.com/

There are a couple of agencies and if you use the search feature you will find a lot more. If  none of these ladies do it for you... better not waste your cash.

[Caballero2009]

Well i mentioned that with the brief time i was able to look online there are a few i found interesting on Jaimies site for sure but if i understand it, if somone does the tour... you meet alot ... like 20-30? again im a confused newb

So i mean i dont think i would pay 1000+ dollars to meet only 4-5 girls that i feel are "just kinda what i want". I am a nice guy and dont like to waste peoples time including some sweet ladies' time. I am very friendly guy so thats not a problem. But as i stated im new to all this. So i hope i get more selection who are more fair complected or tanned but not super dark.


That said im trying to make this fun and learning experience as well. Also trying to get a good handle on the process.

thanks

[Caballero2009]

OK i have been trying to research a bit tonight. I found a disturbing passage in one of the threads and its from Jamie himself.... is this true? I DEFINATELY have a problem with this of its true and will not use the service if its true even 90% of the time... please inform


Jamie said:
"If guys came to Colombia with the intention to only meet women without boyfriends there would be a limited number of women for them to meet. Most unmarried women have one or more boyfriends very much like the Colombian guys do. Most Colombian women think you are there boyfriend after only 2 or 3 dates. Now brace yourself so you don’t fall out of your chair: We do not remove girls that have boyfriends. It is not unusual for girls to give us their boyfriend’s phone numbers as a back up numbers to contact them. We are only concerned if the girl is in a serious, committed relationship. If she tells us she is not and is still looking we don’t care or keep taps of who she may be sleeping with during the meantime.  Just as we don’t keep taps of who the man is frivolously involved with during his search. I was talking yesterday to two good-looking 23 and 24 year old clients who were meeting good looking women and I told them assume all these good looking girl you are meeting have boyfriends. Clients that use our primary services and chat with me get the real scoop of what’s going on and how best to deal with it."


Giving JAMIE their BOYFRIENDS phone for a backup to call to meet the male clients coming in to MEET them with SERIOUS minded future plans for the most part... wow. this is sounding more like a hookup service not a serious minded service for guys to meet future wives...

A) i dont want to be presented with a girl with a boyfriend if im PAYING for this service
B) I truly hope its not true...i can find women with 2-8 boyfriends here... im trying to get away from that..

disheartening im done for the evening

[sabound]

Dave H , that was not me . It was in Feb, of 1985.

[raycjs]

Caballero2009


If you look under the heading trip report and search you will find my trip report and it is all about Jamie's service. I am a little slow today at work so i will tell you my story.
I spoke with Jamie 3 to 4 months before by trip and he told me to fill out a profile and send it to him along with a list of girls i want to meet along with what type of women i want to meet. I did all of that and i also kept going to his site every 2 to 3 days to look at any of the new women that where posting there profiles up till 2 weeks before i arrived in Colombia. I had found over 50 plus women 23 to 30 years of age at the time i was 44. I would call and speak with Jamie every 2 weeks to see how things looked for me and he told me do not worry you will be fine and i will have plenty of girls for you to meet. (he was 100% correct) after about 1 month of his agency handing out by profile to the women i asked him if i could try and start to talk to some of the women and he told me that would be fine. so i talk via internet to about 6 women and it was nice and i made plans to meet all of them and i did.( by the way one of them i spoke to via email and met on the 3rd day is now my wife) i drive to Miami airport and flew to BAQ it took about 2 hours and 15min. When i arrived there was a translator and a women i wanted to meet waiting for me at the airport. We took a taxi to Jamie's office and i talk with the girl on the way there we hit is off and i made a one date with her for the next day. After i arrived at Jamie's office i was shown my room i unpack took a shower and got ready for me first group meeting 30 Min's after i arrived Jamie does not mess around..12 to 16 women of all ages, shapes, and size showed up to meet me and i thought this was great. After the group meeting i was asked if i wanted to see any of the girls again on a one to one bases. I said yes and choose about 5. This took place 3 times a day for 3 days after i had meet over 50 plus women i had chosen 15 to spend one on one time with i did this and i kept on going on dates and knocking the chose down after every date.I was now 1 or 2 days away from leaving and i had narrowed it down to 5 girls i went home and talk with the 5 girls until i narrowed it down to 3. I made plans to go back 6 weeks later to spend all of my time with the 3 women i did that and i narrowed it down to 1 after my 3rd day (my wife Lina) i spent the rest of my trip with only her and her family and friends. I could go on for another few hours telling you move in detail about everything. I made a total of over 15 trips to BAQ and other cities over a 1.5 years time. If there is anything else i can help you with just ask. I highly recommend you use Jamie's service he is 100 % professional.


Best of luck to you

Ray

[Dave H]

Dave H , that was not me . It was in Feb, of 1985.

I figured it wasn't, but you never know.His ex is a real pain, but they did produce a beautiful daughter.

Dave

[sabound]

dave h . i understand . if i had kept track of every gringo that i had met in central or south america it would easily be in the thousands.... 

[Jamie]

OK i have been trying to research a bit tonight. I found a disturbing passage in one of the threads and its from Jamie himself.... is this true? I DEFINATELY have a problem with this of its true and will not use the service if its true even 90% of the time... please inform


Jamie said:
"If guys came to Colombia with the intention to only meet women without boyfriends there would be a limited number of women for them to meet. Most unmarried women have one or more boyfriends very much like the Colombian guys do. Most Colombian women think you are there boyfriend after only 2 or 3 dates. Now brace yourself so you don’t fall out of your chair: We do not remove girls that have boyfriends. It is not unusual for girls to give us their boyfriend’s phone numbers as a back up numbers to contact them. We are only concerned if the girl is in a serious, committed relationship. If she tells us she is not and is still looking we don’t care or keep taps of who she may be sleeping with during the meantime.  Just as we don’t keep taps of who the man is frivolously involved with during his search. I was talking yesterday to two good-looking 23 and 24 year old clients who were meeting good looking women and I told them assume all these good looking girl you are meeting have boyfriends. Clients that use our primary services and chat with me get the real scoop of what’s going on and how best to deal with it."


Giving JAMIE their BOYFRIENDS phone for a backup to call to meet the male clients coming in to MEET them with SERIOUS minded future plans for the most part... wow. this is sounding more like a hookup service not a serious minded service for guys to meet future wives...

You are not understanding my quote. I am explaining the environment in Colombia not solely of the agency and to a small extent what a “boyfriend” could be. It does not mean such women are not looking for a serious relationship and it does not mean they are in a committed relationship. There is much more I could elaborate on but Soltero provide a sufficient answer. Most of the women are not sitting at home sewing waiting for Mr. Right to show up.  We are not a “hookup service” nor do we pretend the women are angels. Not to say one can’t meet an angel. It is up to the guy to discover the make of his interest. It only takes a little bit of thought and effort to determine if an interest has a real boyfriend or not and you can do that without directly asking her.