In case anyone had any doubt that our countries headed the wrong direction.

[Jamie]

"Online dating site eHarmony will create a service for same-sex matching in a settlement of a 2005 complaint that the company's failure to offer such a service was discriminatory."

http://us.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/11/19/eharmony.same.sex.matches/index.html

[singlefather no more]

Jamie,

Maybe the Colombian government will make you provide services for someone looking for a same sex marriage in BQ in the future ( 2020 ).. lmao


singlefather

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[michaelb]

Yet they remain exempt from the IMBRA act, strange. Guess the gay lobby is stronger than the NOW lobby. I read the article you linked to, looks like a case of attempted lawsuit blackmail to me (and they got off cheap for $55,000, I'm sure the crybaby plaintive had a much larger figure in mind, and is probably really pissed that the state of New Jersey got 10 times as much money as he did). Should have just told him "If you don't like the way we do business, you don't have to join up."

[no comment]

A bitter, anal retentive drama queen gets his revenge on the heterosexual world, and a 5G redecorating budget.  What a country.  Maybe e-harmony saw some profit potential in expanding their business to gays & caved.

[Ray]

And all the fruitcakes out here in California are going berserk after we voted down gay marriages. Yep, we just divorced 16,000 couples on Nov 5th.

Now the whiny little twits are running amok because we “took away their right to marry”. What right? Because the bonehead mayor of San Francisco and 4 liberal judges threw out the law defining marriage as the people wanted it? Now even the governator is siding with the girlie-men! 

Oh well, it shouldn’t be more than a few more weeks until some San Francisco judge throws out the latest vote as unconstitutional. I guess that’s life in a big left-coast state.

[bcc_1_2]

I'm assuming Jamie is pointing to the fact that the plaintiff was basically trying to force a company to provide a service. On that point I'll say each independent private business must decide what is profitable to invest in. My guess is because of the lawsuit it became more cost effective for EHarmony to just go after that segiment of the market due to the many costs involved including the hit they'd take in the marketplace. That is a failure of our justice system.

I noticed gay marriage got brought up... but I don't think that's were Jamie was going. I'll steer clear of religion but I will point out that the vast majority of the folks that oppose "gay marriage" go to church every week which is why this is a religious issue. The states need to make sure everyone is treated equal under the law and let each individual religious or non religious organization decide what they want to term these supposedly "life long" relationships. I'm tired of everyone's personal or religious opinions blurring the line between church and state. Whenever someone tells me the law should be this way because its what God wants. I say those folks running some countries in the middle east (shell governments, theocracies) say the law is that of the Koran because thats what Allah wants. All the more reason to keep your religious beliefs apart of your private life.

[jm21-2]

You know, you need to look a bit further back to see where this whole thing started. Government regulation of marriage was originally to stop whites from marrying blacks. Now let's stop homosexuals from marrying.

Why not get the government the hell out of it and let churches and individuals resolve the issue? Why spend an insane amount of money lobbying for the difference between civil unions and marriage while issues that actually matter slip by?

[Researcher]

       I'm surprised that it came to a lawsuit.I figured eHarmony would have already had this option just to make more money.And instead of a lawsuit I wonder why the ones who complained didn't see it as a business opportunity?....oh, easy money from a lawsuit and an opportunity to complain, that's probably why.

[william3rd]

Because Dr. Warren is an evangelistic Christian and the service is heavily linked to the Christian right. Since homosexuality is considered an abomination, why would such adherents deiviate from their principles to cater to what they consider deviants?

[el bandito]

For all those who want to see same-sex Fiance(e) Visas, please contact your new local Democratic Congressman or Senator.

Go-Obama-Nation! 

[Dave H]

Same sex relationships seem to break up more than heterosexual. That would have meant an increase in business for Stephen!    Neil Clark Warren, PhD is going to have to develop 29 new 'dimensions of compatibly' for gays. It's not like eharmony is the only matchmaking company out there! There are other companies like Chemistry.com willing to service homosexual clients. Next churches will probably be forced to marry same sex couples or lose their tax exempt status. There are plenty of churches willing to marry these people already..."But, it's not fair! I just adore the beautiful little white chapel in the valley with all of the lovely daisies and tulips surrounding the weeping willows."

The First Amendment of the Constitution was meant to prohibit Congress from establishing a 'state religion' and the government from prohibiting the free exercise of religion. The phrase "separation of church and state isn't in the Constitution or the Amendments.

"The phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to the letter written by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists, in which he referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state.[3] The phrase was then quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878,[4] and then in a series of cases starting in 1948.[5] This led to increased popular and political discussion of the concept." Wikipedia

I think I am going to eat at my favorite Mexican restaurant tonight. Since my wife doesn't like Mexican food, I will ask them for their Chinese menu. If they don't serve her Chinese food, I'm going to make a complaint to the Florida attorney general's office! PLEASE!!!!

Dave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgxOhG2nDOA&feature=related

[bcc_1_2]

Same sex relationships seem to break up more than heterosexual.
The First Amendment of the Constitution was meant to prohibit Congress from establishing a 'state religion' and the government from prohibiting the free exercise of religion. The phrase "separation of church and state isn't in the Constitution or the Amendments.

"The phrase separation of church and state is generally traced to the letter written by Thomas Jefferson in 1802 to the Danbury Baptists, in which he referred to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution as creating a "wall of separation" between church and state.[3] The phrase was then quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878,[4] and then in a series of cases starting in 1948.[5] This led to increased popular and political discussion of the concept." Wikipedia

I have no idea how or if same sex marriages or civil unions are even being measured right now?

As for your search well done. The declaration of independence and constitution pointed to god as giving us certain inalienable rights. Then moving forward with what Thomas Jefferson wrote and with the Declaration of Human Rights created after World War II the focus became rights we possess for just being human. From a governing standpoint that makes more sense. I would agrue when you turn values into policy from one religion (christianity) you have yourself a state religion. I always warn those that mix their religious beliefs with politics. Here in the USA the worst thing about religion might be a knock on your door from a nutjob.....but over in the middle east it might be a bomb.

[Dave H]

Here in the USA the worst thing about religion might be a knock on your door from a nutjob.....but over in the middle east it might be a bomb.

Hey bcc,

Those nutjobs sure know how to knock at the worst possible times! They must teach them how to knock like your friends. I really don't want too much pacifism, religious or nonreligious (hippy crap) in government, because I am not a turn the cheek kind of guy!  I believe in two eyes for an eye and a mouthful of teeth for a tooth!

Dave

[Dave H]

The eHarmony Shakedown

By Michelle Malkin
November 21, 2008

Congratulations, tolerance mau-mauers: Your shakedown of a Christian-targeted dating website worked. Homosexuals will no longer be denied the inalienable "right" to hook up with same-sex partners on eHarmony. What a landmark triumph for social progress, eh?

New Jersey plaintiff Eric McKinley can now crown himself the new Rosa Parks -- heroically breaking down inhumane barriers to Internet matchmaking by forcing a law-abiding private company to provide services it was never created to provide. "Men seeking men" has now been enshrined with "I have a dream" as a civil rights rallying cry of the 21st century. Bully for you, Mr. McKinley. You bully.

Neil Warren, eHarmony's founder, is a gentle, grandfatherly businessman who launched his popular dating site to support heterosexual marriage. A "Focus on the Family" author with a divinity degree, Warren encourages healthy, lasting unions between men and women of all faiths, mixed faiths or no faith at all.

Don't like what eHarmony sells? Go somewhere else. There are thousands upon thousands of dating sites on the Internet that cater to gays, lesbians, Jews, Muslims, Trekkies, runners, you name it.

No matter. In the name of tolerance, McKinley refused to tolerate eHarmony's right to operate a lawful business that didn't give him what he wanted. He filed a discrimination complaint against eHarmony with the New Jersey Division on Civil Rights in 2005.

To be clear: eHarmony never, ever refused to do business with anyone. The company broke no laws. Their great "sin" was not providing a politically correct service that a publicity-seeking gay plaintiff demanded they provide. For three years, the company battled McKinley's legal shakedown artists -- and staved off other opportunists as well. The dating site had been previously sued by a lesbian looking to force the company to match her up with another woman, and by a married man who ridiculously sought to force the company to find him prospects for an adulterous relationship.

This case is akin to a meat-eater suing a vegetarian restaurant for not offering him a rib-eye, or a female patient suing a vasectomy doctor for not providing her hysterectomy services. But rather than defend the persecuted business, the New Jersey attorney general intervened on behalf of the gay plaintiff and wrangled an agreement out of eHarmony to change its entire business model.

The company agreed not only to offer same-sex dating services on a new site, but also to offer six-month subscriptions for free to 10,000 gay users, pay McKinley $5,000 and fork over $50,000 to New Jersey's Civil Rights division "to cover investigation-related administrative costs." Oh, and that's not all. Yield, yield to the grievance-mongers:

Additional terms of the settlement include:

-- eHarmony, Inc. will post photos of same-sex couples in the "Diversity" section of its website as successful relationships are created using the company's same-sex matching service. In addition, eHarmony, Inc. will include photos of same-sex couples, as well as individual same-sex users, in advertising materials used to promote its same-sex matching services;   

-- eHarmony, Inc. will revise anti-discrimination statements placed on company websites, in company handbooks and other company publications to make plain that it does not discriminate on the basis of "sexual orientation";

-- the company has committed to advertising and public relations/ marketing dedicated to its same-sex matching service, and will retain a media consultant experienced in promoting the "fair, accurate and inclusive" representation of gay and lesbian people in the media to determine the most effective way of reaching the gay and lesbian communities.

I have enormous sympathy for eHarmony, whose attorney explained that they gave in to the unfair settlement because "litigation outcomes can be unpredictable." The recent mob response to the passage of Proposition 8, the traditional marriage measure in California, must have also weighed on eHarmony management's minds. But capitulation will only yield a worse, entirely predictable outcome: more shakedowns of private businesses that hold views deemed unacceptable by the Equality-at-All-Costs Brigade.

Perhaps heterosexual men and women should start filing lawsuits against gay dating websites and undermine their businesses. Coerced tolerance and diversity-by-fiat cut both ways.

 

[Ray]

I'll steer clear of religion but I will point out that the vast majority of the folks that oppose "gay marriage" go to church every week which is why this is a religious issue.

I'm tired of everyone's personal or religious opinions blurring the line between church and state.

All the more reason to keep your religious beliefs apart of your private life.

I would agrue when you turn values into policy from one religion (christianity) you have yourself a state religion.

I always warn those that mix their religious beliefs with politics.

Here in the USA the worst thing about religion might be a knock on your door from a nutjob...

Well, for someone who said he was going to steer clear of religion, you sure seem to be consumed with the subject.

Despite your assertions, I can assure you that there is no “state religion” in the USA. To equate people of faith expressing their views with that being a “state religion” is just silly.

And why should religious folks have to keep their views to themselves while we must put up with the gay activists running amok in our streets blowing their little gay whistles, intruding into private churches to disrupt the services, publicly flaunting their sexual beliefs in those stupid gay pride parades, etc., etc., etc…

So in your mind only the religious people should shut up and stop bothering YOU? BALONEY!

Is it O.K. to mix your sexual beliefs with politics but not your religious beliefs? That's done on a daily basis by the gay lobby.

You seem to have some serious issues with religion and religious beliefs, which is fine with me. But don’t forget that some of us have serious issues with others cramming their perverted sexual orientation beliefs down our throats on a daily basis. And don’t forget that some of us are sick and tired of a bunch of gay activists attempting to cram their redefinition of marriage down our throats. And don’t forget that some of us are sick and tired of a bunch of gay activist teachers cramming their sexual orientation views down our children’s throats in our public schools.

As far as I am concerned, the people of California have spoken emphatically AGAIN that they don’t want marriage redefined to suit the whims of the gay activists or any other disenchanted activist group.

When they start respecting our views on marriage and culture, then maybe they will start to gain our respect.

Until then, the lot of them can get the hell out of my state if they don't like the way we vote!

Let them move to Massachussetts, or better yet Canada, where they can do whatever they want.

Bye suckers! 

[singlefather no more]

Ray,

We don't need anymore in Canada , thank you very much.. We got a damn crazy supreme court that started this crazy law..

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[Ray]

OOPS!

Sorry about that SF...   

[no comment]

Dave H quoting Michelle Malkin

There are thousands upon thousands of dating sites on the Internet that cater to gays, lesbians, Jews, Muslims, Trekkies, runners, you name it.

Dave, didn't you use to have an avatar of yourself brandishing a Klingon scimitar?  Why don't you sue a lesbian dating site as a Trekkie.... demand that they include those irresistible chicas verdes.....

[Dave H]

Is it O.K. to mix your sexual beliefs with politics but not your religious beliefs? That's done on a daily basis by the gay lobby.

Hey Ray,

It was done by Bill Clinton too! We voted that gay marriage BS down in Florida too! Now if Disney World would stop it's 'Gay Days' debauchery. Not a great thing for kids to see and they don't even warn tourists!

Dave

[Dave H]

Dave, didn't you use to have an avatar of yourself brandishing a Klingon scimitar?  Why don't you sue a lesbian dating site as a Trekkie.... demand that they include those irresistible chicas verdes.....

Hey no comment,

Thanks! I didn't think of that. I will add it to my list of lawsuits! 

Dave the Klingon