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papi · « **on:** March 31, 2007, 08:08:51 AM »

i was reading in a mailing from Net 2 Bed how some regular Joe landed some smokin hot 20 year old model. It got me thinking about a former associate who did well with the ladies and used to frequently say that men fall in love with their eyes while women fall in love with their ears.

I often read here about dressing well, using floss and speaking spanish but rarely do we talk about game. Maybe if we had more of it, some of us would not be here in the first place (Pdaddy of course being the exception). Just some food for thought.

Ray · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:12:41 AM »

papi · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:25:54 AM »

you are getting better. that was funny...

Planet-Love.com · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:25:54 AM »

Ray · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2007, 12:17:58 PM »

Quote from: papi on March 31, 2007, 10:25:54 AM

(edited dirty advice)

Papi, did your mommy teach you to talk like that?

soltero · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2007, 02:08:44 PM »

Quote from: papi on March 31, 2007, 08:08:51 AM

Maybe if we had more of it, some of us would not be here in the first place (Pdaddy of course being the exception). Just some food for thought.

Papi, if you are going through all of this because you figure some poor latin girl is all you can get, that might explain why the process has been so frustrating for you. Some of us feel that we are taking it a step further and trying to improve our options by declining the available gene pool here. If you think AWs are all that, then I do not understand why you are not setting your sights higher and pulling one in if that's what you prefer. I would if I thought I could find better here in the States. I do not, however, and not because my choices are limited here or anywhere.

papi · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2007, 03:13:11 PM »

Soltero, you have obviously failed to listen to the agencies telling us how a regular Joe can land a hottie latina

Ray, my "advice" to you still stands

soltero · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2007, 04:02:15 PM »

Quote from: papi on March 31, 2007, 03:13:11 PM

Soltero, you have obviously failed to listen to the agencies telling us how a regular Joe can land a hottie latina Ray, my "advice" to you still stands

Papi, I got started on this quest by sitting down one day and figuring out who the best women I had ever been with were. Americans, Europeans, Latins, Asians, etc...3 of the top five were Latinas. I then concluded that it was time to go to the source to dig for the purest gold. I am sorry if guys got a pamphlet filled with horse hockey misleading them on the path to the promised land.

el_ruso · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2007, 04:25:18 PM »

Paps,

it is very puzzling that you have such a low self-esteem and skewed priorities. A man in your age should have sorted out all those things LONG time ago. I don't know what you were doing the last 47 years, really. And I am not even commenting on your aversion to children.

1. "Game" is a learned trait. It takes great willpower sometimes to gather up your confidence, to try to "sell yourself" to a beautiful women. The guys who are natural at that have just made an effort to learn it, gone through painful rejections, and learned to deal with them. People who dance real well started out just as everyone else stumbling and missing the beat count. If you failed to learn "game" by your age, it is sad, and you should realize that you are a minority. Do NOT assume that everyone else has low self-esteem and low standards.

2. The most important thing in a woman is NOT a "hottie" factor. REALLY. Everyone wants an attractive girl, but your shallowness is just pathetic. You have an urge to post photos of the girl you are dating (or even of the girl who responded to your e-mail). Why do you care what others think of the hotness factor of the girls you date? They do NOT. You will not be considered a stud if you miraculously land a "10" and post her photos everywhere. Why? Because a truly successful guy will not have a need to do that.

3. The most telling thing is that you don't really care about the girls you meet. You do care about their looks, but you never mentioned anything about their personalities or their life or their achievements and aspirations that made you choose that particular girl. Because frankly you don't seem to care about those things. So, don't be surprised by your constant failures. Until you change your mindset, you will not succeed, no matter what you try.

Sorry for being direct. Hope this helps. Chau.

Ray · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2007, 04:45:44 PM »

Quote from: papi on March 31, 2007, 03:13:11 PM

Ray, my "advice" to you still stands

Well Papi, my reply to you still stands. Did your mommy teach you to talk like that?

You should have your dirty little mouth washed out with soap...

papi · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2007, 05:48:51 PM »

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1. "Game" is a learned trait. It takes great willpower sometimes to gather up your confidence, to try to "sell yourself" to a beautiful women. The guys who are natural at that have just made an effort to learn it, gone through painful rejections, and learned to deal with them. People who dance real well started out just as everyone else stumbling and missing the beat count. If you failed to learn "game" by your age, it is sad, and you should realize that you are a minority. Do NOT assume that everyone else has low self-esteem and low standards.

Thanks for more of your psycho babble/condescending remarks. I was talking in general terms. I guess it went over your head.

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2. The most important thing in a woman is NOT a "hottie" factor. REALLY. Everyone wants an attractive girl, but your shallowness is just pathetic. You have an urge to post photos of the girl you are dating (or even of the girl who responded to your e-mail). Why do you care what others think of the hotness factor of the girls you date? They do NOT. You will not be considered a stud if you miraculously land a "10" and post her photos everywhere. Why? Because a truly successful guy will not have a need to do that.

Lots of guys share pics of their women. I did it once on the other forum a long time ago but again like a pit bull you can't let it go. I am not sure why I bother with you though - my palm tree makes more sense.

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3. The most telling thing is that you don't really care about the girls you meet. You do care about their looks, but you never mentioned anything about their personalities or their life or their achievements and aspirations that made you choose that particular girl. Because frankly you don't seem to care about those things. So, don't be surprised by your constant failures. Until you change your mindset, you will not succeed, no matter what you try.

Again trying to tell me what I like. My current interest is not only beautiful but smart. Maybe you have to settle for less but I don't

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Sorry for being direct. Hope this helps. Chau

I'd prefer a dose of Prep H over your help

papi · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2007, 06:00:05 PM »

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I am sorry if guys got a pamphlet filled with horse hockey misleading them on the path to the promised land.

it really isn't all a bunch of agency BS. Guys can do much better in Latin America or Asia. I am almost pushing 50 and have an interest less than half my age who is not only beautiful but intelligent. 0 chance of that in the USA

el_ruso · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2007, 06:59:24 PM »

Paps,

I am happy about your "interest". However, what do you think she finds appealing in you aside from $$$? It is possible for a guy who is 50 to get interest from a 30 yo woman, even an attractive and smart one. But just think, what can YOU offer HER? Based on what you have shared here about yourself, it is close to 0. And what makes her so "smart"? That she doesn't want children?

Look, if she is what you have described about her, not too many guys will want her. so I am happy she found you. wish you many years of happiness. mazl tov.

And Paps, you "shared" pics more than once. You did post photos of some girl who went out with you, and apparently she got pissed - no wonder. Then you were posting photos of some women on a personals site who you thought might be gay, and that made you very excited I guess. Just recently you posted photos of women who just responded to your profile. If some guy marries a woman, or is dating her seriously, and wants to post pics here or elsewhere, that's great. He wants to share his joy, and since he most likely did a trip report those photos come with it. I don't think anybody posted photos of their wives or gf's and asked for feedback on their physical appearance.

papi · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2007, 07:32:32 PM »

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But just think, what can YOU offer HER? Based on what you have shared here about yourself, it is close to 0.

i am warm, cuddly and loving and unlike you have a personality

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And what makes her so "smart"? That she doesn't want children?

can you really be serious?

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Look, if she is what you have described about her, not too many guys will want her. so I am happy she found you. wish you many years of happiness. mazl tov.

i can see you flunked out of religious academy too...that's mazel tov

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And Paps, you "shared" pics more than once. You did post photos of some girl who went out with you, and apparently she got pissed - no wonder. Then you were posting photos of some women on a personals site who you thought might be gay, and that made you very excited I guess. Just recently you posted photos of women who just responded to your profile. If some guy marries a woman, or is dating her seriously, and wants to post pics here or elsewhere, that's great. He wants to share his joy, and since he most likely did a trip report those photos come with it. I don't think anybody posted photos of their wives or gf's and asked for feedback on their physical appearance.

I am going to take up this matter again with my palm tree

Planet-Love.com · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2007, 07:32:32 PM »

Christopher · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2007, 07:36:07 PM »

Nothing like another forum measuring contest....

bundy_138 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 02, 2007, 03:06:34 PM »

"Game" is simply something that cannot be learned overnight. It comes with experience with different women, knowing what a woman wants, and putting your hormones to rest. (You actually have to listen to what they are saying and respond accordingly) I have "crashed and burned" more times than I want to remember, but those times made me stronger and smarter for the next try.

Everyman wants a hottie. They trick is, making the hottie want you.

First rule:

Know what league your in. If you are a 4, what makes you think your getting a 10? Go for what you know.

Respect. Treat them like you would your mother, it works everytime.

Think with the right head. All guys think sex. Try for once to take an interest in her as a person and things might go different.

Pay attention. It's the little things. Remember what flowers she likes, or her favorite movie. Look at her when she talks, not at the beautiful cleavage in front of you.

Be yourself. Don't lie about who you are or what you have to offer. You may end with her for the long run and you would hate for all those lies to catch up with you.

OK, the list can go on and on. Start there and work your way up.

Any questions, the love doctor is in! jajajaja

Bundy

papi · « **Reply #15 on:** April 02, 2007, 05:44:14 PM »

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Know what league your in. If you are a 4, what makes you think your getting a 10?

if i wanted a 4, why bother to get on the plane? i can get that here

el_ruso · « **Reply #16 on:** April 02, 2007, 07:14:48 PM »

As far as scale is concerned, a 4 is not just looks. It's the whole package.

sean126 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 02, 2007, 08:07:09 PM »

I'm with the "love Doctor" on this one. I think you have to stay within the ball park....on the flip side of that, you can move up a few notches in a different country...but like he said, don't expect to go from pulling , 4's, 5's or 6's to a 10+ without any real substance behind you and expect to get a sincere woman who adores you simply because you're "you".

For instance...I have a friend. He has an Ok build, nothing to write home about, but at the most 10-15 lbs overweight maybe, His looks is at best "average" and that's on a good day. Nothing wrong with balding patterns, but his is one of those that has the typical horse shoe shape balding pattern...but right in front he has a little patch still there. It's almost humorous. However his confidence and his self esteem is such that he pulls alot of very attractive women that you really wouldn't expect to see someone like him with. I think the average Joe without anything that sets him apart from the rest in his class should not expect miracles. Possible and Probable are two totally different things.

papi · « **Reply #18 on:** April 02, 2007, 08:17:47 PM »

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I'm with the "love Doctor" on this one. I think you have to stay within the ball park....

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don't expect to go from pulling , 4's, 5's or 6's to a 10+ without any real substance behind you and expect to get a sincere woman who adores you simply because your "you".

Now wait a darn minute pretty boy...are you saying those smokin hot latinas banging us fat pushing age 50 gringos wearing shorts with black socks are with us for some other reason than true love

sean126 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 02, 2007, 08:21:34 PM »

ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

No, not at all dude. Occasionally even I wear those black socks with shorts and sandals. For a more provocative touch...I wear those black bands that holds up the socks around your calves.

bundy_138 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 03, 2007, 07:22:57 AM »

Thanks el_ruso....you get it. Everyone gets old, everyone eventually gets ugly. If you marry someone on looks alone, well, I feel sorry for ya'. There has to be substance, something that makes it all work. Without it, your doomed!

And another thing, there are instances where a younger woman may be interested in an older guy for love, but it is rare. Sure it's possible, but I bet you a $100 that if you ask your novia why that young girl is with that old guy, she will say it is for the money! 9 times out of 10 it is. I could have a smoking hot Latina here in Florida if I took out my money clip and showed her how strapped I was. I could save my money by not going to Colombia and spend it here. I was looking for the complete package. It is nearly impossible to find that "unspoiled" Latin woman in the USA that has not had her head scrambled by Westernized Culture. What my girl lacks in looks, she sure makes up in personality, humor, and family values. I got myself an 11!

Look for me to be married in 6 months

Bundy

papi · « **Reply #21 on:** April 03, 2007, 07:31:08 AM »

Bundy, i don't think anyone would argue that we don't need the entire package. It is not just about having an arm piece. I have met plenty of hotties that made me barf...even in colombia

bundy_138 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 03, 2007, 07:42:24 AM »

Papi, I am not pointing fingers at anyone. I will be the first person to admit that my whole life, I have been SHALLOW! I would only date beauty queens and knock outs, but there was little of anything else I liked about them. It took years of heartaches to finally realize "beauty is only skin deep". (If I would have listened to my Mom 15 years ago, things would be different!) I finally decided to make that leap to Colombia to try something different, and guess what, I found my beauty queen who just happens to be an amazing person. She is everything I have dreamed of and I finally know what happiness is. We have talked for 8 months and spent 10 days together. My second trip this month will tell me if things are as perfect as they seem, and if they are, I plan on popping the questions. Yes, I am ready to do so.

So yes, the movie Shallow Hal is my life story. For those of you who haven't seen it, do so. Take some of those tips and put them to good use.

Bundy

Planet-Love.com · « **Reply #22 on:** April 03, 2007, 07:42:24 AM »

papi · « **Reply #23 on:** April 03, 2007, 07:45:06 AM »

Bundy, sounds good. Just remember to expect the unexpected. Does she have children? how do you feel about that?

bundy_138 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 03, 2007, 08:45:10 AM »

Yes, she has a 4 year old daughter and I have an 8 year old son. We both want more children and want to have a large, happy family. I perfer a woman with a child. It is a great way to see how well of a mother she is, how mature she is, and how serious she is. Younger women with children tend to "grow up" faster. Not all, but many do because they are responsible.

I am happy with my entire situation except for not being with her everyday and the length of time it will take me to get her here. Maybe william3rd will be able to help me speed up the process!

Bundy

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