Races in Medellin

[el_ruso]

Paps,

Well, my girl is from Medellin.  Does that make me a super-stud in your eyes?   

I have met paisas, calenas, women from Bogota.  I have not found neither group averse to dating.  Cali seemed to me a lot more poor than Medellin or Bogota, so women there might be more motivated for economic reasons, not the racial ones. 

I tell you what, let me shoot an e-mail to my girl and see what her opinion is regarding Black guys dating paisas.  And maybe UC could ask his wife too.  We already know that Chizz obviously has no problem there.  Anyone else here dates or is married to paisas?

[soltero]

Well Soltero then you need to go and check Medellin out for yourself. 

That is exactly my point. Thank you for recognizing that.

[soltero]

Yes you can hunt anywhere but all the right tools and skills in the world will not help you catch a polar bear in Africa. I have been to Medellin more than once with other Black guys. I have not found women in that city to be as open to dating darker skinned guys than women are who are from Cali. My "skills, tools" are the same in Cali and yet I have had more success there. Hmm...

That's YOU. Do you represent ALL Black Men? I do not see why you are arguing this point because the answer to that question is beyond obvious. What you do and where does not give you magical powers to represent everyone. A blanket statement such as "Black men will do better in Cali and on the coast" is incorrect. You being Black is not going to change that. If ONE Black man does better in Medellin, it makes that type of statement false. We are not all symbiotic or attached at the hip. You do not represent all Back men, and neither do your friends.

If you want to limit yourself, especially if you have had less than favorable returns on your expectations, then that is an option available to you.

[rpcv]

That is exactly my point. Thank you for recognizing that.

   

[papi]

Sol, you should go to mde if you wish to do so. It is a beautiful city. And the women are stunning. But knowing that you prefer an extra pinch of MSG in your chow mein, my advice is to hit cali or the coast instead. Your call. I look forward to your trip report wherever you decide to go

[soltero]

Sol, I am Jewish yet I think I might find the wife search easier in Israel vs Egypt. Does that help?

No, it doesn't help. That has nothing to do with the point. At least in your scenario, you believe you have the option to search in either locale, regardless of where you might have more success.  I believe your original position was more along the lines of Black men have no choices when it comes to Medellin. I guess your shuffling and side stepping away from your original position is as close as you can manage to squeaking out an apology for your original jackass comment.

Apology accepted.

[Nectar]

You have to have game for Medellin. By that I mean have a decent job, speak good spanish, dress decent and somewhat attractive, intelligent, good conversationalist etc.
Solly by all accounts seems to have all this and would do very well, skin color having no bearing.
However when you are lacking in these areas and frustrated, you are reduced to making silly commentaries on who would or would not do well there based on race.
Stick to emailing the chicas on Latinamerican. They will have you pegged soon enough and take you for a ride.
Have fun.

[soltero]

 

If you don't understand, let me see if I can clear it up. Papi originally said that Black men need to avoid Medellin as we do not have any chances there. You felt the need to validate that statement as if you speak for everyone and can attest that no Black man would have success in Medellin.

My point was that any and all Black men who care to go to Medellin can and should regardless as to the success of others or the perceived lack of it because we are all individuals and would more than likely fare differently as such. My comments in this thread were not for me personally as I pretty much walk the Earth as I care to, and don't need permission from others other than a passport and/or Visa, and already know how I will do wherever I choose to go which will be excellent on some days and bad on others, as that is the way of it more than what complexion I am.

My success is not dependent on yours, nor is anyone else's and I thank you for acknowledging that fact by telling me that I can go see for myself rather than just agreeing to Papi's blanket statement that Black men are unwelcome in Medellin.

[papi]

Soltero, sorry you are stuck on stupid regarding this thread. no apologies

[papi]

Soltero, for the record, i never said blacks are unwelcome in medellin. I said to forget it....and that can also be applied to all gringos unless they want to fish in more challenging waters. I have seen my share of racism in Cali too but blacks are welcome in medellin and all of colombia

[soltero]

Soltero, sorry you are stuck on stupid regarding this thread. no apologies

Papi, I have "known" you long enough to know that you are incapable of pulling your foot out of your mouth without a few solid whacks to the back of the head. I used to wonder why people rode you so much elsewhere, but trying to get you  to retract anything, no matter how "stuck on stupid" it is is a waste of time without a 2 by 4. 

You know how much I like to keep people honest. My comments on this subject are more for those that read your opinions rather than for you yourself, so an apology is not actuallly needed. Just trying to balance out the Papi "opinion" with some commone sense. I prefer women with more of a "tan" anyway, which you already know.

[soltero]

....and that can also be applied to all gringos unless they want to fish in more challenging waters.

Why didn't you just say this in the first place? There are too many people reading this forum for you to be qualifying where anyone else besides yourself can and can't go. Some may not have the stones to see for themselves, which is the only real way for an individual to assess his personal level of success or failure.

[rpcv]

If you don't understand, let me see if I can clear it up. Papi originally said that Black men need to avoid Medellin as we do not have any chances there. You felt the need to validate that statement as if you speak for everyone and can attest that no Black man would have success in Medellin.

I did not state that at all. It is possible a Black man may have sucess in Medellin. However, based on mine and my friends observations/experiences, it is easier in Cali.

My point was that any and all Black men who care to go to Medellin can and should regardless as to the success of others or the perceived lack of it because we are all individuals and would more than likely fare differently as such.

Great idea and I am in complete agreeement. However, I am not a white man and as such I feel qualified to present personal experiences that other minorities who wish to visit Medellin may find useful. If a minority told me after visiting both Warsaw and Prague that I have a greater chance of confronting skinheads in Warsaw would I still go there? I suppose I could go and see for myself but I'll highly consider their opinion since they were actually there..(Note: It's just an example because folks in both places were quite friendly when I was there)

My success is not dependent on yours, nor is anyone else's and I thank you for acknowledging that fact by telling me that I can go see for myself rather than just agreeing to Papi's blanket statement that Black men are unwelcome in Medellin.

As I said before Soltero, go see for yourself. Your experiences might be different and I look forward to reading your full trip report.

[papi]

Why didn't you just say this in the first place?

i have been trying to say this all along. I surrender! I am now going to take the neighbors dog for a wiz on my palm tree. Bundy, sorry to stray from your original post

[rpcv]

You have to have game for Medellin. By that I mean have a decent job, speak good spanish, dress decent and somewhat attractive, intelligent, good conversationalist etc.

And the same applies to Cali, Bogota, etc. Or are you stating that you do not need "game" in any other city in Colombia?

[soltero]

As I said before Soltero, go see for yourself. Your experiences might be different and I look forward to reading your full trip report.

Thanks, RPCV...I am currently in a relationship and doubt I will be getting out of it to pursue other women, especially since I plan on popping the question the next time I am in country. I do have friends in Medellin that I will be visiting eventually, so I'll post my humble opinions at that time if people are interested.

[el_ruso]

I am disapponted that Paps is hiding from me the information on where Jewish men should go in Colombia.  I was looking forward to finding that out.

Also, IMO this thread would have been fun if Mr Phoenix could pitch in

[el_ruso]

Well, I discussed with my girl regarding whether paisas do not like Blacks.  Interestingly, she disagrees with Paps's viewpoint.

Well, her mom is white, and her father was black (he passed away), and she says her mom loves negros.  And to her she doesn't care, as long as she likes the person.  She says that in her experience the black men are often racist because they usually date only negritas.  Go figure.

So, it would be interesting to hear from UC on the topic.

And it would be even more interesting to hear from Paps on where Jews should look for women in Colombia.  I can't believe he is hiding this information from me.

[Nectar]

I was dating a beautiful lawyer from Medellin last year. Met her both in Cartagena and in Medellin. I was staying at the Belfort Hotel in Medellin and one of the local soccer teams Nacional was also staying at the hotel as they were preparing to leave to go to play I think in Uruguay for la Copa Liberatores.
Long story short the team is about 90-95% black and just about all the players   had either white wives or novias. I asked my novia at the time about this (she was white) and she said that the Black guys love white chicas and that white chicas loved black men. She said she had dated a black guy before and so had her friends. The only problem was there wasnt that many to choose from in Medellin but that they are in demand.
So Solly if your amiga doesn't work out for you I would head for Medellin. As always take whatever Papi tells you and do the opposite. You will be well served.

[el_ruso]

We all see the world through our own eyes.  But the problem with Paps is that he thinks that everyone has his limitations.

I mean, per Paps, I must be a super-stud to be dating a girl from Medellin  .  I really don't know him personally, but I don't think an average gringo should have problems in Medellin.  I agree though that he needs to come across as intelligent, have a decent job, and dress decently.  I am not sure that if a guy is lacking in these, he has a chance of retaining a girl for a long time, and that a woman would date a guy like that either out of manifestly ulterior motives or (seldom) pity.

[papi]

I mean, per Paps, I must be a super-stud to be dating a girl from Medellin

well, in your case there are always exceptions....maybe she feels sorry for you. i do

[Ray]

many colombians think Jews have horns...

Gee, I wonder what ever gave them that idea... 

   

[el_ruso]

WHY do you feel sorry for me?  I am touched, really, but I am not sure why exactly someone should feel sorry for me.  Least of all you.

Regarding the colombianas' misconceptions about Jews...  I was wondering if you might not tell them you are a Jew, because their misconceptions might deapen.  Seriously.  Thanks in advance.

[Ray]

Perhaps many Colombians think Papi has horns... 

 

[papi]

Regarding the colombianas' misconceptions about Jews...  I was wondering if you might not tell them you are a Jew, because their misconceptions might deapen. 

comrade, while i trust you are well qualified to run off and join the russian circus, i do caution you that apparently it is hazardous duty in colombia. Presently, however,  i have a palm tree requiring my utmost attention. Make it a great day