juggling act

[papi]

I consider myself a newbie to the whole online thing cause i really just took off the 5 year training wheels and now have the IM's going, webcam and sophisticated site...now comes the hard part - the juggling act. I'd like to hear from the vets out there how you manage more than one chica in the same city. I've heard of telling say Maria you are arriving on Wed and then telling Carmen you're coming on sunday but that really is not my style yet these girls start to get attached and telling them you expect to meet other ladies is also not a good idea in my opinion. Yet, you sure dont want to invest all that money to meet one chica...this is one thing where maybe the agencies can manage it better. Anyway, what say you?

[valleydude]

I am glad that you brought that up. I have no clue as well and I was going to post something to the effect of this topic. Right now, I am sorting through it myself.

After my last Vaginazuelan, I was posting that I was never going to go and meet only one girl again; however, I find it quite impossible to do this with the "Agency Work Around" method. (Agency Work Around is kind of sticking eh? jaja)

I say impossible because I have yet, to see a girl accept or understand this. When I begin to explain that I am looking Mrs. Valleydude and it is only logical to utilize my short time in South America intelligent, they do not understand or accept it. When I explain that I need to know them a little more before visiting because of the money they do not understand. I explain I need to know them more online or it is like spending $2,000 on a dinner date.... they don't understand. I have gotten to the point of frustration over this. They only way I can see it easily done is to lie, and that is just not my style.

I have never used an agency and have always been doing the website thing, and this is one of the very positive things I saw about the agencies. For example: All of Bundy's candidates seem to be cool with it. I think it is because they are all in a marriage agency and expected, where as the dating site girls want to feel the are the only one and something special/magical is developing only between the two of you? I don't know, but that is the only thing I can think of.

You could probably pull it off a little easier because you are always cruising around. It's like you could happen to be in town visiting friends and you called them up. I can't just do that.

All in all, I have been at a complete loss on how to pull this one off honestly and getting them to understand. I'd like to hear other's 2 cents on this as well.

VD

[daytrader]

ValleyDude - I was posting that I was never going to go and meet only one girl again; however, I find it quite impossible to do this with the "Agency Work Around" method. (Agency Work Around is kind of sticking eh? jaja)

I say impossible because I have yet, to see a girl accept or understand this.

My advice is to start the relationship out slowly.  Be friends first.  If you want to meet multiple women on a trip, play hard to get on the first trip.  Explain to her that both of us should have no expectations until after we've met and known each other a while.  Yup, that means no serious kissing until the 2nd trip down to SA....and that trip you are only going down to meet her.   

If you do get intimate with her on the first trip and you have come down to meet multiple women, then you may appear to the latina(s) as a "Ugly American" (1950's movie of the same name).  Remember, they're choosing a gringo because you are not a machismo, si?  Therefore, don't give them cause by acting like one. 

I suspect several forum posters will not follow this advice, consider me a prude, and old fashioned.  Well, it's "old fashioned" cuz it works and has worked for hundreds of years.   

DayTrader

Spanish machismo means "sexism" or "male chauvinism" (along with the adjective machista, "sexist" or "male chauvinist").[2]   --  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machismo


 

[el_ruso]

If you feel you must meet several, or at least have a backup, you can do this:

tell them that you are visiting with a friend, and you will be in town for several days, and if you have time, you'd like to get together.

[papi]

I say impossible because I have yet, to see a girl accept or understand this. When I begin to explain that I am looking Mrs. Valleydude and it is only logical to utilize my short time in South America intelligent, they do not understand or accept it. When I explain that I need to know them a little more before visiting because of the money they do not understand. I explain I need to know them more online or it is like spending $2,000 on a dinner date.... they don't understand.

they are totally clueless, and have 0 appreciation for what we go through. Remember, they think all gringos are rich. That is why I get crazy sometimes when I read guys writing about the poor latinas. It is usually the gringo that ends up getting screwed.

[papi]

I have never used an agency and have always been doing the website thing, and this is one of the very positive things I saw about the agencies. For example: All of Bundy's candidates seem to be cool with it. I think it is because they are all in a marriage agency and expected, where as the dating site girls want to feel the are the only one and something special/magical is developing only between the two of you? I don't know, but that is the only thing I can think of.

The pros to doing an agency is they can fix you up with several girls for 1 hour citas. It is far easier to manage a backup plan. Bundy is a different case because he started writing to the girls beforehand. I have trouble believing they are ok with him seeing multiple chicas...these girls start throwing around the mi amors and digital kisses and sparks fly. I may have struck gold, but in some cases there are multiple potential future Mrs. Papi's in the same city    I have no idea yet how i will manage it

[doombug]

they are totally clueless, and have 0 appreciation for what we go through. Remember, they think all gringos are rich. That is why I get crazy sometimes when I read guys writing about the poor latinas. It is usually the gringo that ends up getting screwed.

That's why I'll be sporting one of these, come my next trip to the land of saline and handouts:



$22.45 for mine, or go and design your own at www.zazzle.com.

Peace, ballers!

[papi]

LOL!

soy un gringo pobre...si eres hermosa, tener compasion y besarme

or I am a poor gringo...if you are beautiful (female), have compassion and kiss me.

I guess that is better then wearing a bullseye with a $100 pasted on your forehead and run the laps around chipi

[papi]

..they don't understand

Latina says:  hablas con otras chicas?
Papi says:  celosa?
Latina says:  quiero saber si hablas con mas chicas ,nada mas quiero saberlo
Papi says:  amor, nosotros no conosco
Papi says:  me gusta conocerte
Papi says:  posiblemente hay quimica
Papi says:  puedo hacer novios
Papi says:  pero estoy soltero
Latina says:  si yo se que eres soltero pero de pronto hablas con alguien mas para conocer.
Latina says:  yo soy sincera contigo solo habla contigo
Papi says:  amor, es muy lejos para viajar a colombia y costoso
Papi says:  no puedo ira solomente para una cita
Latina says:  yo lo entiendo
Latina says:  eso quiere decir que tambien hablas con mas chicas?
Papi says:  Si

[doombug]

Latina says:  yo soy sincera contigo solo habla contigo

 

Worthy of its own shirt logo.

Indeed, if we're judging each and every word literally, she is providing herself an out. (I guess if you're a religious Latina with fidelity issues, these things come naturally.)

She says "solo habla contigo" instead of "solo hablo contigo."

Huge difference. And a gaping loophole (even without the customarily ignored punctuation in their text exchanges).

It's impossible that she lied to you. (In her mind.)

But she's absolutely lying to you^*.

 

[^*To verify: Create another profile (with a handsome profile and some Spanish dialogue, of course) and express interest in her to see if she refrains from responding. Don't leave any hints that it may be a trap.]

[soltero]

LOL!

soy un gringo pobre...si eres hermosa, tener compasion y besarme

or I am a poor gringo...if you are beautiful (female), have compassion and kiss me.

I guess that is better then wearing a bullseye with a $100 pasted on your forehead and run the laps around chipi

LOL, Papi if beautiful (hermosa), and female (hembra) are the same to you, I'm surprised you have such a reputation for being so picky. If all women are beautiful, you can just grab the closest one you find the next time you are in one of those South Texas Buffets and be the happiest guy alive...

[papi]

i always thought life would be easier if i went for fat chicks...

yu know my style...i think you even said that one from my former barn rocked Soltero's world even though she was lacking in the sabor departamento.

Well, i am still talking to the CZ...but i think i found gold online. Why didn't you tell me about it earlier?? Incredible

[papi]

colombo doom, you got to be kidding me. hablo vs habla and she fails the lie detector...lol

[valleydude]

That shirt kills me, I am going to get the matching sweatshirt as well.

I never buy in to that I am the only one the girl is talking to.  After a couple of months of writting and with an agreement to write exclusively, it is possibly true. Until then, I don't buy it.

I had a girl pulling this on me after about 3 days of chatting, and I  called her on it but she kept insisting it was true.  I just laughed it off. I did continued chatting with her anyway out of curiosity. About a week later, she was on the cam with her friend. I said her friend was cute like her and she asked if I was serious and that her friend was single. I asked: "What about you?" She said it was ok and I should chat with her friend, because she had someone.

The only way I can see the meeting multiples is if I did the ol' I'm just in town hanging out, but I can't pull that one off. I think Papi could because he's got the stamps in his passport to back him up. He could say: "Look, I do this all time". For me, it just wouldn't work and I'm not up to BS'ing them.

I agree it's us that has something to lose. They do too, but I think we have more than is imagined. When they don't get my "$2,000 dinner" idea, I started something new...
They tell me "there is more to a relationship than money and you should not worry about the money". My new thing is that I tell them to WU me the money and I will be on the first plane Friday after work and if I feel things went well, then I'll reimburse them. jaja

For the record, I'm not serious about that, I'm just trying to entertain myself after painfully trying to get them to understand.

VD

[doombug]

hablo vs habla and she fails the lie detector...

Don't blame me; blame the machine. My model is a bit more sensitive than the next, though.

[papi]

this is shooting fish in the barrel. the go go years are back! I think someone should open a biz catering to lonely rich guys. First you teach them spanish, how to dress, brush their teeth and then show them the power of the net. You could offer extra hand holding services escorting them on their travels. A port in every storm...this is shock and awe

[doombug]

That shirt kills me, I am going to get the matching sweatshirt as well.

This would be strictly for wear in Colombia:

"Así pues, estamos en el acuerdo. Usted no es un narcotraficante y yo no soy un sexotraficante."

(Translation: "So, we are in agreement. You are not a narco trafficker and I am not a sex trafficker.")

Unless properly intoxicated, I wouldn't be so bold as to wear this one, though.

[valleydude]

You could always dress in layers and remove the appropriate shirt at the appropriate time?

I'm thinking I might just wear a wire and later after I return then I could run the tapes through a voice recognition system and determine who is honest and narrow the field from there?

Of course though, I'll have to make a note to self... "Never remove the last shirt"

VD

[valleydude]

Papi's post made me think of this:

My main chickee that I am writting to now received an interesting email from a guy online. I'll respect his privacy and just post the intro. I'm sure it will speak for itself....

Mi nombre es xxxxxxxxxx. Tengo 56 años. Mi pelo es grueso. Yo sólo tienen seis de mis propios dientes. Me gusta fumar marihuana. No cada día, pero a menudo. Nunca uso otras medicinas. Hago no beben, tal vez una copa de vino una vez en largo rato. Puedo ser stubburn y grueso encabezado. Estoy seguro hay más defectos. Es todo que puedo pensar ahora. No quiero alguien para cambiarme.

In his defense he did say a couple of nice things, but for the most part, he continued to put bullets in his head.

VD

[papi]

no way!! i have seen some misfits but this cant be for real...it is a joke

may i ask where your amiga is located?? any plans to visit her??

[papi]

it might be a 15 y/o or maybe he is a guy for real and trying to be funny. For those that don't follow what this joker wrote, he describes himself as 56, grey hair, with 6 teeth. He likes to smoke pot, not everyday but often. He does not use other meds or drink but has a cup of wine once in awhile. He says he is stubborn and has a thick skull and sure there are more defects but that is all he can think of for now and he does not want someone who is going to change him.

[doombug]

My main chickee that I am writting to now received an interesting email from a guy online.

Mi nombre es xxxxxxxxxx. Tengo 56 años. Mi pelo es grueso. Yo sólo tienen seis de mis propios dientes. Me gusta fumar marihuana. No cada día, pero a menudo. Nunca uso otras medicinas. Hago no beben, tal vez una copa de vino una vez en largo rato. Puedo ser stubburn y grueso encabezado. Estoy seguro hay más defectos. Es todo que puedo pensar ahora. No quiero alguien para cambiarme.

Dude, dude, if my pops sends her anymore of these emails, please let me know before openly sharing it here on the boards.

This is, like, totally embarrassing.

[By the way: dad now has five teeth, not six. He just lost one this evening trying to open a can of tuna.]

[papi]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[el_ruso]

Doombug,

You can estar DE acuerdo, not EN EL.

VD,

That intro was probably an attempt at humor.

[valleydude]

jajajaja I can assure you guys it is 100% authentic. She forwarded it off to me with everything intact. I will even take DB's lie detector test!

I remembered it when I saw Papi write:

I think someone should open a biz catering to lonely rich guys. First you teach them spanish, how to dress, brush their teeth and then show them the power of the net

The actual email is huge. I'd say it is a good 100 lines of text. He really put some effort in it. The part I posted was pretty much bundled together as the intro. What is funnier, is that he says this is his general response to any of the girls, but he made it a little special for her.

She was telling me: "I can't believe this guy wrote me. He only has 6 teeth!"
We were laughing and I made a few jokes.  I thought she was just sending me an intro letter and I might have an idea of my competition. Then when I saw it, I was even more surprised.

She is a Colombiana. I want to go see her. We have been writting, talking for about 2 months, but a little more exclusive in the last month. I want to go down next month, but I am holding out a little before I buy my ticket. I learned this after losing a couple of tickets. It may not sound rational to some, but it just works for me. It already did too. The Peruvian I was getting a little serious with, just dropped after asking for cash. With airfares the past few months, that saved me about 9-$1,200.

Right now, I am really only talking to the Colombiana. A couple others pop in from time to time, but I'm not interested.  As things progress, I am going to write a little more.

VD