BARRANQUILLA AGENCIES - ADVICE NEEDED

[william3rd]

The point is- the depiction of the tour and its message was completely accurate.

And you dont think he went there all on his own, do you? His project was paid for.


Look, the quality of guys going on their tours has been degrading for years. Not that way back in the 90s. Dick factor of maybe 10%. And that is what IMBRA is a knee jerk reaction to. They havent even gotten to the effect of the 2002-2005 folks yet.

When this agency  started to advertise for a certain target group, the dick factor went way way up.

As for IMBRA, are you even affected by IMBRA?

I am- got to do one of those damned waivers in the next week or so to send along with my petition.

[markanthony7]

From a owners perspective, when you deal with a single person, you can give him and his romantic situation more individual attention and detail, I feel it is important to micro-manage, because each persons prototype and qualities vary from person to person and you only have 7 days to make it happen, we utilize the personal tour because we feel it is more effective and personable

[ROLITO]

Rolito, I happen to like the large tours but they are not cheap. You are looking at $1000 plus hotel. There are more affordable options but if you still want to go - checkout TLC. Keep in mind that 100% of the female attendees are not going to look like all the hotties on the website. If you are serious - I'd keep following Calicharm. I got an email from the owner that he is working hard on recruiting some new ladies. You can't beat their program...but again, i do like the large tours and most guys have a blast on them. If you have any specific questions, I am happy to help

SPECIFIC QUESTION IS MY FIRST POST.  WHICH TOURS DID YOU ATTEND
AND HOW SUCCESSFULL OR NON-SUCCESSFULL DID YOU DO ON THEM ?

SUCCESS MEANS MEETING AND MAINTAINING  WITH LADIES MET.

[daytrader]

Way to go Rolito, STAY FOCUSED... deal with facts and first hand comments not generalities... strive for "current information"  --- arrive with a PLAN and specific criteria you are looking for to maximize your productivity.  If you are not ready for that yet, just hang and enjoy the vacation with no expectations; then the next trip down you will be ready....take your time, enjoy the latin atmosphere, appreciate the differences from the American culture. 

DayTrader

[daytrader]

Additional post to Rolito -- before I bought airline tickets, I called each of the agencies I was thinking of using during the middle of the day...I asked if any gringos were on the premises currently -- they were and I got their cell #'s and called them -- they gave me some excellent pointers and were a large part of making my decision, and setting up my budget for the trip.  If no gringos are on the premises, ask when they will be.. then call unexpectedly and try to get some frank info from them.  Worked well for me. 

DayTrader

[ROLITO]

Thank you DT -
It seems you share my opinion that my orginal question was never
answered with any specifics by someone who admits to have
taken 4 tours  already. 

This seems like a lot of tours and is very unusual. What I would
like to know is when and where he took these tours and to tell
us something about the women that he personally met each time.

I understand that there may be many plain women at these tours
but the sheer numbers involved mean there should be some lookers also.





 

[fathertime]

Rolito,  You are not a  "Newbie" and your agenda is obvious...thanks for starting a decent thread.

FT!

[papi]

Rolito, i believe TLC claims something like 5000 marriages.  I don’t know if that is an exaggeration or not, perhaps Doombug can pull some stats but obviously they must work for some guys.  Anyway, I wrote that there are pros and cons to large tours yet I happen to think they make sense.  If you are seriously interested, I’d suggest picking up the phone and chatting with TLC.  I am not on their payroll and so far have only received $25 from PL for my vast contributions…lol

[ROLITO]

I have already spoken to them but I feel a  more objective and
honest answer would be from a repeat customer like yourself who
has gone on 4 of these tours. What was your personal experience
like and which cities were these tours in?  Thank you

[sean126]

Rolito...
first you need to decide WHAT city exactly that you want to go to.  Your ORIGINAL question was about Barranquilla and I suggested that you read the trip reports from guys who have been there, paid, and who post their successful or unsuccessful trips.  Apparently you didn't like that advice even though it answered your question.

Are you trying to set Papi up for a big insult or something?  Papi is obviously NOT married, so does that mean he's successful or unsuccessful?  IF success means finding a wife....then anyone knows it could take YEARS for that....if success means finding a girlfriend or bootie calls, then it will only take a trip.

I am married, Papi is not.  Papi knows many women from many different places in Colombia, I do not.  Each one of us has different success's and failures.  Just because one is successful doesn't mean you will be, same goes for failure.  

We gave you several options for Barranquilla.  You can look at their websites to see what the women look like.  

It's my understanding that there is really no way of telling WHAT the women look like who will show up at the group tour things that TLC has.  My friends in Barranquilla tell me that they will use ad's in the paper to get girls to come to these things also.  Besides that...if you don't speak spanish then you have over a hundred women in one room with 6 or 7 guys or more trying to meet them...with only 2 or 3 translators.  To me....that don't sound to good, but to someone else it might.

Now you want to know about CTG and Costa Rica ...you might want to make up your mind.

I don't think Papi's avoiding directly answering your questions....you don't seem to have made up your mind and maybe you haven't read the "trip reports" section.  If by chance Papi's opinion is the only one that matters to you...then you may want to start a Papi fan club and go to Cali.  If I was going to Cali, that's who I'd ask.

Your starting to not make any sense at all.  What works for one, may not work for another...duh!

Papi, I think you have a "wanna-be-papi" tugging on your shirt tails...or he's trying to back you into a corner for some unknown reason.  LOL...I agree with Fathertime.

[ROLITO]

As this is my first time to BQ  I only wanted info and feedback  on agencies.
As the tours always seemed rather unique and very expensive
I wanted someone with experience to comment upon them with some
specifics to see if I should go for broke so to speak. I have chatted
with a girl from BQ who told me she once walked out of one.
This is my last post on the topic.

[papi]

Rolito, I echo Sean's comments.  I have attended TLC's tours to Panama, Peru, and Cali (2) so I can't lend much insight into their trip to BQ.  However, you can trust TLC to give you the straight poop. Call Bruce...tell him Papi sent you. He owns the company and is not one to hold punches. If I were to guess - BQ will have 200-300 women each night (Fri/Sat) and a smaller event Sunday afternoon of which Papi would find 5%-10% attractive during the weekend activities. You will be competing against 30 -40 guys half being misfits and the others with game. Good luck. Steve

[daytrader]

From Roli:

I feel a  more objective and
honest answer would be from a repeat customer like yourself who
has gone on 4 of these tours. What was your personal experience
like and which cities were these tours in? 

Hey Roli, too bad you didn't get specific answers and even generated feedback with 'ttitude....totally unnecessary, IMO...

I did a search of "TLC" from the root directory of the "forum" and the most recent post regarding a trip was 18 months old.  There was also some very specific negative comments about TLC that seem to be unrefuted in the archives.  Supposidly this is a big operation with lots of clients...why haven't some of these guys posted specific, accurate (and positive) reviews lately? 

I called TLC before making my final decision, and a kid about 20 years old answered the phone -- there wasn't anyone that could give me "first hand" info - the whole thing struck me as not impressive...the website looks hokey as well... it's a very old style that needs updating to a more sophisticated look. 

 I have put some specific info in about my Cali experiences and, yes, it seemed to have stepped on some of the "toes" of the Old Guard here because I got some of the same 'ttitude you did. 

If you want some tips on checking out some agency choices,  maybe I can give you some advice, although it wouldn't necessarily be first hand ...feel from to PM me....at least it wouldn't have some the unnecessary negative attitudes or nonresponsive generalities by some of the Old Guard here. 

DayTrader

[gcman1]

day trader  hmmm  sounds like you think your ansers are the only valid ones and is BS that all firms paid big bonus this year  and ur RISK is low  hahahahahha are you kidding

[daytrader]

YOU might have been happy with a barbecue for Christmas, but cashed up New York finance types found Ferraris and holidays in the Maldives under the tree after Wall Street filled their pockets with nearly $US24 billion  in bonus cash.
In total, the bonuses doled out to Wall Street's workers tallied $US23.9 billion, according to a conservative estimate by the New York state comptroller.

That means on average, each person working in the financial services industry had an extra $US 137,580 to splurge.

The Aussies have it right  -- www.news.com.au

ur RISK is low

QUOTE ME ACCURATELY gcman1 --- I never said the risk was low, never recommended what I do is for anyone else.... but I gladly risk a MAX of $20 to make $100 every 4 hours, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 50 weeks of the year....yeah, with those numbers and my bank account, that' s low risk gcman1...I recommend you stay out of deep waters you probably know nothing about...I've been learning something new in this field for 10 years and none of us know it all, but some of us succeed wildly when we stick to a plan.  I don't deviate from the plan and encrypt my software so it can't be reverse-engineered. 

Stick to making judgements you know something about....

[sean126]

Daytrader,
I don't believe anyone was giving him attitude.  When your around this site long enough you will realize that sometimes people come here with bogus names and start what looks like an actual thread, but it turns out to be phoney and it's started just to start trouble or mess with someone.

If he is legit, all he had to do was look in the "trip report" section like I very politely suggested.  Currrently there are 13 different threads by 8 different people pertaining to Barranquilla...NOT counting all the ones in the archives.  That seems like a pretty broad range of different experiences to me.   If that wasn't enough, I seriously doubt that he even looked on Latin-wife.com like several of us suggested to him, if he did then he would see that Jamie has a referral service and he could contact several of Jamie's past clients to get this "objective and honest" opinion that he was seeking.  
As he continued in his thread, he didn't know where he was going or what he wanted to do.  It's hard to give any serious help to someone who hasn't made up his mind yet.  All this is obvious if you actually re-read the thread.

In my opinion it looks like he was trying to set someone up and jump on the bashing bandwagon, like you have done a few times.  

I'm extremely surprised that you... of all people... would criticize anyone of not giving a specific/direct answer to a direct question.

As for Rolito's barranquilla's quest....Several of us have recommended Jamie's agency, apparently that's not good enough. Latin-wife.com has a pay per date thing now I believe.  Most, not all, would recommend him.  There are a few other's in barranquilla that may be and are probably cheaper.  There are trip reports from people who have been to Barranquilla.... this year, who went to try to find someone.  I have been to Barranquilla 5 or 6 times and I'm going back again in 2 days to visit family.  I met my wife in Barranquilla and I have used Jamie's services in one form or another 3 or 4 times.

[daytrader]

The tour idea sounds like a great way to meet a variety of women in a few days,
and since you have been on 4 of them it means they must have something
special or exciting about them and I was hoping for your personal feedback.

This forum is a joke...a newbie asks for specific info from a top poster on this forum, and he gets attacked for it....and, by the way, NEVER gets the specific info. 

       MY OPINION IS >>> DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME ON THIS FORUM <<<

The proof is in the pudding, planet-love-echo-chamber-members, very few NEW posters are coming into the forum and staying active! 

[william3rd]

DT- I think you raise a valid point. There are 2 or 3 of the old hands that may someday just be attacking each other over and over and posting stats for themselves. Sort of like shouting in an empty movie theater.

Hang in there. . . . Or switch over to the RWD board for a while. . .

[daytrader]

appreciate the feedback William, pls PM me the link to the other board, I'm not familiar with it...I am too busy polishing my Cali Diamond in coming days to bother looking! 

DayTrader

[catz]

http://www.russianwomendiscussion.com = RWD

[sean126]

Awwwwww don't leave.

Hey....I'm sorry for getting you all worked up. EVERYONE....I APOLOGIZE TO DAYTRADER AND ROLITO.
I'm a very mean poster and I inadvertently hurt their feelings some how.  Shame on me.

I should be an outcast. 

I will honestly strive to do better and watch my wording and I will not attack any new posters anymore.  (I am willing to write this 100 times for my punishment, daytrader.)
 

[Dan]

Awwwwww don't leave.

Hey....I'm sorry for getting you all worked up. EVERYONE....I APOLOGIZE TO DAYTRADER AND ROLITO.
I'm a very mean poster and I inadvertently hurt their feelings some how.  Shame on me.

I should be an outcast. 

I will honestly strive to do better and watch my wording and I will not attack any new posters anymore.  (I am willing to write this 100 times for my punishment, daytrader.)
 

Sean,

You are a good guy - with a lovely wife (she wears that Santa hat quite well).

I think DT and others just got caught up in a little tiff - and everyone needs to calm down a bit and get re-focused.

- Dan

[papi]

DT, I thought I gave Rolito a lot of good info without getting too involved in my personal experiences.  Heck, what if I actually don’t resemble Bruce – then I might have a more difficult on the tours than him if he is in fact a young stud muffin.  Seriously, I am here to help and recommend the tour.  What more can I say???

[bundy_138]

That is one of the reasons I stopped posting on PL.  Either new posters get bashed or some "newbie" bashes you for your post!  I initally joined this site for information, to ask questions, and to meet other guys like myself.  I have met a few good people, but have also met MANY a-holes! 

My suggestion to NEWBIES, read the archives and the olders posts BEFORE asking questions.  Most of your questions will be answered that way.  Some of the older members will be glad to help you out, just shoot them a PM. 

Bundy

[sean126]

Rolito,
IF your still monitoring your thread, I wanted to try again and give you some good info before I left tomorrow for Barranquilla.

I already gave my opinion on the large tours..ie..TLC.  I can only comment on Latin-wife.com.
The owner, Jamie, strikes me as a very honest man.  I felt like I got what I paid for...sometimes a little more.  The women that I told him that I wanted to meet, many were actually better looking in person.  I met about 40 girls or so in 3 days.  If you've never been to one of these things...I felt like I was on the "bachelor" t.v. show.  Jamie will give you names and numbers of his past clients to get their opinions of his agency and their experiences.  He will take your phone calls and answer your e-mails.  I've never known him to lie to me or to a couple of my buddies who also went.  He is not cheap, but he is honest and reliable.  The women....well, some are and some aren't, just like every other part of the world.  I had the time of my life and I love Barranquilla.  I felt relatively safe and the assistant I had was the best....she's now one of my best friends.  I've heard good things about the others also.  There are numerous threads about Barranquilla and Jamie's agency if this isn't enough information.  They can be found in the general discussions and trip report sections.  Jamie now has a per-date thing I think.  His website is pretty self explanatory and put together pretty well.  I think he requires 5 weeks notice before you come with payment already made.

I have heard, I don't know for a fact....that the other ones in Barranquilla don't keep the girls data base up to date as well as Jamie does.  A majority of the girls that I met were very attractive...I'd say 80-90%.  You was looking for an opinion on Barranquilla and their agencies....well, I gave you mine about one. 

If you can do it, I would highly recommend going during Carnival which is in Feb. If your going you better hurry up and buy your tickets.  I haven't checked the prices, but they can get expensive.  I don't know where your flying out of...but your looking at a minimum of $800 to $1,000+ just for airfare.   Your first trip is the most expensive if you find a sweetheart your first time down.   

I directed you to the trip reports before...because you was asking for a re-cap on experiences and that's exactly where they would be, some are lengthy.