foreigners drugged with Scopolamine: "Zombie drug"

[whitey]

The quality of the tap water often depends on the strata of the barrio. In the low stratas in Cali many people use filters the most popular being Bel-Ozono.

That could be the problem for me in Quilla.  My wife lives in estrato 3.

[fathertime]

All kidding aside, Colombia is not Mexico. You can drink the tap water in the big cities.

i think i drank water in cali but barranquillan water made me sick everytime i ingested it accidently....

Fathertime!

[John W]

I believe scopolamine drugging has the potential to leave the victim with long term brain damage.  Much more serious than just passing out and finding out you have been robbed.  I hope Mudd follows up with more details.   

[mudd]

well, talked to one of the guys.  the girl put the drug in his drink ( he does not drink any alcohol) when he  went to the bathroom. he met this girl on colombian cupid.  here is what he fowarded to  some guys in medellin. he also lives there.  so be careful.

"Recently there has been a rash of incidents involving administration of "burunganda" , "axter" or "escopolamina" in the Parque Lleras area of Medellin. At least nine gringos I know have been victimized by this drug, usually by young women who came onto them in a bar or dance club. This stuff renders one unable to act on volition / it induces a zombie-like state and the predators then usually take everything without any resistance. Sometimes the victims appear to be willing participants, allowing the porteros to let the girls leave and sometimes even helping them carry things out.. Several men took the girls to their homes and were subsequently robbed after they had somehow ingested the drug. I have heard that up to 80% of ER admissions in Medellin on weekends are related to burundanga .This substance is atropine and is derived from Nightshade, Belladona or Brugmansia. This plant was very common in Panama when I was living there in Chiriqui, but I heard almost nothing about it being used by criminals to rob, rape or attack in that country. In Colombia it is also called cacao sabanera or borrachera. It is used extensively by young women and men to commit crimes in Medellin (all of Colombia for that matter). Be extremely wary of leaving a drink unattended in a bar, allowing any stranger to get close to you on the pretext of asking you to read something or sniffing samples on perfume etc on the street. Once administered, it will incapacitate the victim. It is an extremely dangerous drug and is used extensively by groups of two to three persons acting in concert. It will induce coma in large doses and can kill. Two of my friends were hospitalized for a couple of days after they had been victimized. Here is a link - http://www.biopsych iatry.com/ scopolamine/ borrachero. html. Be careful!"

[fathertime]

interesting MUDD,

Another little something that comes to mind is that if the man can remember the gal he was with, I would think that girl now becomes a target.  I mean if a man were angry enough he could spot her and have his buddy pick up on her, get her back to the room and exact revenge.  I would think that the gals that pull these moves can't be feeling TOO secure when going out in bars/discos afterwards
Fathertime!

[no comment]

I am pretty sure that I got dosed with something one time in Cali a few years ago.

Soltero, did it smell like turpentine and taste like India ink?  It might have been Love Potion #9.

Is resistance futile?  If a person were acquainted with the effects of scopolamine, as the army has made recruits sample gas under controlled conditions, maybe one could resist the effects of the drug(?).

[mudd]

sorry  bad link address

http://www.biopsychiatry.com/scopolamine/borrachero.html