Will International Introductions do the right thing or not?

[william3rd]

Already posted it - the applicable sections of law for you. . . .  coward, the little agency fella says. You gotta big yap for being 3000 miles away. Do you talk the same way at arms length or do you rely on your doxies to protect you?

Is it something in the water or do all the agency owners in Colombia sound the same. . . .

[bcc_1_2]

Is it something inthe water or do all the agency owners in Colombia sound the same. . . .

I'm starting to see your reasoning. Instead of the name calling and side stepping issues he could have just dealt with them and ended this thread/issue. Even if we didn't agree with his decisions he could have ended this. He could have just said I'm not giving a refund because the customer never got in touch with me. He could have admitted he caused confusion with the email and fixed it. He could have said he was unsure about being IMBRA compliant and even though he was a colombian business he'd contact his attorney. Instead of doing that he resorted to calling you names and side stepping issues. I just doesn't look good when you go back and read this thread. Anyone who reads that email can see why the girls were confused. To our knowledge that has never been addressed. Forget the refund how do we know future clients won't run into the same issue?

[Jamie]

Exactly and I am sure that if that starts to occur, would clients be willing to take a chance with an agency that is not in compliance with the law? I wouldn't.

So I guess we have to conclude that Jaime's agancy does not comply with IMBRA. Fine by Jaime but good luck explaining that to embassy officials if this becomes an issue during your fiancé process.

If, if and if. If it is determined that a client requires some form of compliance it will be very easy for us to satisfy such compliance. But the facts are to date approximately two years after the law has been passed no clients have been delayed or hindered by this law. A law that may not apply to clients who use our services since we are a foreign country not under the jurisdiction of U.S law. Any client who wishes to comply with this law can do so on their own.

Here's your exact words again Jaime as previously listed:

Quote from: Jamie on January 17, 2009, 07:30:44 PM
Let me start off by providing the English translation of the letter that was sent out on 9/2/08 which in my first post I wrongly stated was sent in November:  The only translators that should call you are:"

To me that sounds like a requirement. You are stating to the ladies that the only translators that should call them are "..". Perhaps a poll on here would resolve this...

This one little eight word quote you are using as the sole basis of your argument was to distinguish from our translators and those translators calling our members while using their real name and claiming to be part of International Introductions when they were not. If we had such a requirement as you claim it would be very prominently stated in a very definitive manner many times and in many places. Not with eight words indented as information regarding which translators were working for us. It would also be ridiculous for anyone to require something that they can’t control, so we don’t. We can’t control it, yet you are claiming we are requiring it.

I am sorry to hear you think that I try to, "get a dig" at you whenever the opportunity presents itself. If you actually read things Jaime, you would know that I have also given you accolades on here and even defended some of your statements at times.
I don't choose sides; I only expect truthful statements so that folks can make informed decisions for themselves. I have replied to others KB, etc about some of their remarks but I don't respond to every post individuals make on here. If I did I would have 1000's of posts myself.

I agree we are not always on opposite ends, but the reality here is I asked William 5 questions prior to his 1 question to me and you choose to highlight his one question claiming I was avoiding his question before I even had a chance to respond. It would have only taken you one more sentence to have asked William the same as you did of me but you chose not to. That sounds like bias to me.

You also knew in advance I was not compliant, because you had made a purchase from us, and you were not required to provide any private information for us to forward to the women. This does not sound like someone only interested in “truthful statements” but the concealment of truth. You knew the answer but no need to let others know right.

Once again Jaime avoids answering the question with more cut and paste and insults. Very Clearly it was asked by William and I share repeat it:

There is no “once again”. I am offline and a question is asked of me, which of course I am not able to answer and you want to know why I have not answered the question. You of course knew the answer because you did not comply with any IMBRA requirements when you purchased services from us.

I have answered every question and some more than once. And I demonstrated this in a clear manner by cutting and pasting everyone’s questions and concerns towards me and answering them so that others can follow the flow. I can only assume you object to me being organized and orderly because as it does on this thread it exposes your hypocrisy. 

Your “once again” would only apply to you. I have asked you a total of only two questions. Your answers to date are zero. And I will tell others why you did not answer these two questions.

My first question: “This is no different then us hoping the man uses our translators. You don’t see anything wrong with that do you?”

You won’t answer this question because if you say yes (which is the only suitable answer) then you could not justify objecting to us hoping the women would use our translators.

Question two: I asked you please tell me which questions I failed to answer and I will do so since you were so adamant that I was not answering the questions. But you don’t provide anything, because you are not able to come up with one question that I did not answer. I am the only one on this thread answering every question and concern presented.

Give William a chance to respond to your questions. Usually Yes/no questions are easy for most folks....

Then why didn’t you answer my one and only yes/no question to you?
Which was: “This is no different then us hoping the man uses our translators. You don’t see anything wrong with that do you?”

Now if we were to change places and this was your question to me instead of my question to you, I am sure I would be getting some, “once again Jamie is defiant and not answering the questions.” Now, by any chance are you going to say, “once again…” to yourself? Of course not because it is part of your hypocrisy.

As for William, he indicated he did not want to participate and defended his position. He prefers to be a little coward boy and throw out insults. The advice a lawyer may give to his client, William is using for himself, he is pleading the 5th for everything that is coming out of his mouth.

Ahh, the usual denial and contradictions from Jaime again; lol.”

The only denial is coming from the falsehoods presented, if you are seeing any contradictions then I suggest you stop re-reading your posts.

[Jamie]

WOULD YOU BUY A USED CAR FROM THIS MAN?

If they believe a snake oil lawyer they wont.

Definition of an International Marriage Broker. “International marriage broker” is defined as an entity (whether or not U.S.-based) that charges fees for providing matchmaking services or social referrals between U.S. citizens/permanent residents and foreign nationals.

The definition also exempts nonprofit religious or cultural matchmaking services, and dating services that do not match U.S. citizens/residents with aliens as their principal business and that charge comparable rates and offer comparable services to all clients, regardless of gender or country of citizenship.

HMMM- SHORE DOES LOOK LIKE IMBRA APPLIES TO THIS AGENCY, DONT IT? SHORE 'NUFF. . . .

RIGHT NOW THE GOV HASNT BEEN ENFORCING IT BUT IF THEY START TOMORROW. . . . .

William thanks for that information. But this is a U.S. law and as you know U.S. law does not have jurisdiction in other countries. Of course, what is more important is that the client does not have any delays in his visa process and to date there have not been any, nor any indications there will be. Scare them as you might.

The legal advice I received disagrees with you position. As I indicated any client wanting to abide by this law is welcomed to do so.

All visiting clients are now provided and suggested to contact a recommended immigration lawyer prior to their visit to discuss any legal precautions they may want to take prior or during their visit. Additional safeguards and compliance will take place on a need-to-basis.   

Already posted it - the applicable sections of law for you. . . .  coward, the little agency fella says. You gotta big yap for being 3000 miles away. Do you talk the same way at arms length or do you rely on your doxies to protect you?

Is it something in the water or do all the agency owners in Colombia sound the same. . . .

William I don’t recall ever having an exchange with you in the past, but you insulted me in the first two post you directed towards me. I replied without insult hoping you would have an adult exchange. Instead you replied with three more post directed towards me each with insults. Those are the facts William that all can see by looking back at the posting sequence. I would be more than happy to debate you on all the positions you have taken without insults, if you so chose, and avoid drinking any water in the meanwhile.

[Jamie]

I'm starting to see your reasoning. Instead of the name calling and side stepping issues he could have just dealt with them and ended this thread/issue.

If you look at the sequence of postings you will see William insulted me a few times prior to me even posting to him once. In my first post to him I tried to start a dialogue with him. Do you see any insults in that post? He then insulted me in three more post. He is now up five post insults to my 1 post before I realize I am dealing with a coward who prefers to call me names instead of debating. Now why don’t you take another look and tell me if you see it any differently than I just stated.

If you felt I sidestepped an issue please tell me what it is but I suggest you carefully reread the thread.
 

Even if we didn't agree with his decisions he could have ended this. He could have just said I'm not giving a refund because the customer never got in touch with me.

The customer never asked for refund and I clearly explained why no refund would have been provide. The first time I heard of his complaint was on this thread. I asked the client in an email if I could call him and he refused.

He could have admitted he caused confusion with the email and fixed it.

I indicated that even sending a Happy New Years email causes confusion. I do not expect all minds to have the same grasp as others. I am satisfied with the email we sent and we did “fix” by telling the one or two girls that called it was ok to meet the client. If you don’t like my answer that’s fine, but everyone of your points have been addressed and answered.

He could have said he was unsure about being IMBRA compliant and even though he was a colombian business he'd contact his attorney.

I am very knowledgeable about IMBRA and there was never any confusion on my part. I answered the question as soon as I had opportunity to do so. I am sorry I was not able to answer the question while I was offline.

Instead of doing that he resorted to calling you names and side stepping issues.

You are way off line on this I suggest you pay closer attention to the sequence of postings and who said what first.

I just doesn't look good when you go back and read this thread.

If you reread this thread after writing your last post then that doesn’t look good.

Anyone who reads that email can see why the girls were confused.

Try as I might, I am not able to erase confusion in all minds. This thread is a perfect example of the limits of reading comprehension at work.

“To our knowledge that has never been addressed. Forget the refund how do we know future clients won't run into the same issue?”

This is easy to answer. If you have any doubts about a service you are considering don’t use that service. So I would suggest anyone having the slightest concerns about us regarding any aspect of this story not to use our services.

[Jamie]

He also hung findalatina out to dry and I really had to ask a bunch of questions to figure out exactly how see fits into his agency or if she does and if this former employee he mentioned was her.

You have a short memory it was you that that did that:

bcc_1_2, If I were you I would watch my words and not expose and call people names without hearing both sides of the story.

What we eventually found out was that finalatina didn't break any laws. It actually turns out that their rift is over something else. "Star" employees leave businesses all the time to branch out on their own or work at a rival firm. Sometimes they take clients with them.

Jamie's reputation seems at a crossroads here on this board. If I don't meet Miss Right on my next trip or two I'll probably use a third party service to find her for me. It is looking more and more like it might involve FindaLatina placing a personal ad for me and hooking me up with the girls she knows... and less and less like I'll be dropping a few grand with Jamie.

I made it very clear that Jay’s translator stole and lied to me while employed and was fired. As for those wanting to reward thieves and liars you don’t need to feel guilt its typical business practice in Colombia. You can reserve doing the good things in front of your neighbors.

[rpcv]

You also knew in advance I was not compliant, because you had made a purchase from us, and you were not required to provide any private information for us to forward to the women. This does not sound like someone only interested in “truthful statements” but the concealment of truth.

Assumptions Jaime. Just because I purchased addresses from you doesn't indicate I "knew" your agency was compliant. Obviously now (thanks to your own admissions), I know your agency is not Compliant, lol. And that you were concealing the truth from customers by not stating this upfront.

My first question: “This is no different then us hoping the man uses our translators. You don’t see anything wrong with that do you?” 

I don't understand your statement. 
 

Question two: I asked you please tell me which questions I failed to answer and I will do so since you were so adamant that I was not answering the questions. But you don’t provide anything, because you are not able to come up with one question that I did not answer. I am the only one on this thread answering every question and concern presented.

I asked a yes/no question about Imbra and you didn't answer it. A Yes or No response is all I asked for there.

And so this saga continues...As I stated on another thread, I have had enough with all this nonsense. Got my lady on the way to the States and too much work in the office to have to sit here and watch you avoid directly answering questions. But I am sure we will meet again someday.

[Jamie]

Assumptions Jaime. Just because I purchased addresses from you doesn't indicate I "knew" your agency was compliant. Obviously now (thanks to your own admissions), I know your agency is not Compliant, lol. And that you were concealing the truth from customers by not stating this upfront.

You did know we were not compliant because the law requires you to provide information to the women prior to receiving any contact information. You knew the law and you also knew you did not provide any information to us and that no information was asked of you. You have used other agencies and you knew what they did versus what we do so it was obvious that we were not compliant. You chose to play with this even though you knew the truth that we were not compliant.

I don't understand your statement. 

It was a question not a statement that was part of my response to your question. If you look at the post you would see how is applies. My point being is that you ignored it, the only question I asked and at the same time pushing me why I had not instanouesly respond to a question you knew the answer to.
 

I asked a yes/no question about Imbra and you didn't answer it. A Yes or No response is all I asked for there.

You got your answer even though you knew the answer when you did not comply with IMBRA during the purchase of our services. You are just playing games, and as I demonstrated being bias and hypocritical.

And so this saga continues...As I stated on another thread, I have had enough with all this nonsense. Got my lady on the way to the States and too much work in the office to have to sit here and watch you avoid directly answering questions. But I am sure we will meet again someday.

And I was on the receiving end of most of this nonsense. Best wishes to you both.

[william3rd]

If they believe a snake oil lawyer they wont. AWWWW MY FEELINGS ARE HURT_YA MAKE ME SOOO SAD

William thanks for that information. But this is a U.S. law and as you know U.S. law does not have jurisdiction in other countries. Of course, what is more important is that the client does not have any delays in his visa process and to date there have not been any, nor any indications there will be. Scare them as you might. WHICH PART OF WHETHER US-BASED OR NOT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND. . .

The legal advice I received disagrees with you position. AND WITH THE POSITION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.As I indicated any client wanting to abide by this law is welcomed to do so.

All visiting clients are now provided and suggested to contact a recommended immigration lawyer prior to their visit to discuss any legal precautions they may want to take prior or during their visit. Additional safeguards and compliance will take place on a need-to-basis.  WHO'S DOING THE RECOMMENDING? YOU? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

WILL THE AGENCY DO THE RIGHT THING? NO. IS THE AGENCY IMBRA COMPLIANT? NO

William I don’t recall ever having an exchange with you in the past, but you insulted me in the first two post you directed towards me. I replied without insult hoping you would have an adult exchange. Instead you replied with three more post directed towards me each with insults. Those are the facts William that all can see by looking back at the posting sequence. I would be more than happy to debate you on all the positions you have taken without insults, if you so chose, and avoid drinking any water in the meanwhile.

YOU ARE ABOUT AS SLIMY AS THEY COME, POPS. YOU REALLY OUGHT TO GET ONE OF THOSE PIMP OUTFITS. MORE IN KEEPING WITH YOUR STATION IN LIFE. YOU ARE NOT WORTH MORE OF MY TIME. BETTER GET SOME DENTAL INSURANCE- THAT BRIDGE LOOKS A LITTLE TATTTERED

[Jamie]

Thanks for showing us your professionalism at its best.

[Pivery]

So, even after Sean126 has left the building, this thread still exists???

What is the point of beating a dead horse?

This thread needs to be taken out behind the woodshed and shot.

8 pages of silliness...The bell has been rung.

Everyone agree to disagree already!

Pivery