Money and Culture

[bigstew33]

Hola from Bogota.  Yes I am still here.  I learned something today from a Typical Colombian man.  It goes along with something that came up with a friend of mine I met here.  He took a lady to dinner and she ordered the most expensive item on the menu.  I know you guys say omg get rid of her.  But he told me that Colombian men do not care how much the woman spends at dinner.  especially first date.  Even though Colombian men are looked down on here by the women, the men take care of the women in romance.  They buy them flowers all the time etc.  Now he did say that if that trend continues with the woman then she isn't any good.  So the women are taken care of by the Colombian men.  I even mentioned a situation similar to what Fathertime has posted recently about his woman asking for money for her family.  He said a Colombian man would help her but he said he would make sure the situation was real first.  So in many cases the women may be thinking in their culture, and we thinking in ours.  BTW I extended my stay here.  Still haven't found the special lady yet.  But I am keeping it slow.  I don't normally like to go slow but I am trying to avoid any more heartache.  peace fellas

[Fuzzyone]

 Bigstew

    I am wondering who is telling you all this good information? This Colombian man is sure not trying to help you.! When I met my wife in Barranquilla my first date with my wife was very cheap. She did not look for the highest price in fact she tried to get me to buy the cheapest thing on the menu to save my money. There is a reason most of the Colombian guys have the history they do and it is not for buying flowers all the time and buying the girl the most expensive dinner she wants.
   
  When I spend a lousy $100.00 to buy my wife a ring she liked, she acted like she had just won the lottery. I had to force my girl to allow me to take her out to eat, she wanted to cook dinner instead to save money and I was not even married to her.

   If you meet some girl that is acting the way you described drop her like a rock because you are setting yourself up for a heck of a marriage!

[fathertime]

Hey Stew!  Man you have been in Colombia for a long time.  I thought you were back weeks ago!  Maybe you decide to stay there permanently...

I don't know about the spending the most money possible during a dinner date!  It always seemed to me that the ladies who ordered the most extravagant meals were the ones least interested in me!  The ones who considered ME when they made their order were the ones I could sense had the most interest.  Really the money itself is not much of a consideration since we are not talking about big bucks either way.  It is more a matter of being considerate to your date & despite a Colombian woman's culture, I think they understand fully what they are doing when they order the most expensive item on the menu, while you are picking up the tab! That alone would not stop me from seeing a woman a second time, but if you couple this with too many other risk factors, I might decline a second date.    


Fathertime!

[bigstew33]

I am agreeing with what you guys are saying. he was explaining how most Colombian men treat the women.  Well he did leave out the part about being unfaithful

[mudd]

 a few girls that i went on dates with who ordered something really expensive( well, to them it was) or took me to a really expensive restaurant, were not into me at all, and just wanted a really expensive free meal at a really expensive place. its ok a 1st, but after a few times, you see whats going on. it also goes back to how they were raised and how they value money, and if they actually like you,  or are just using you for a free dinner.  i know  some girls who would like to go to these places, but would rather eat a normal or cheap place and save the money.

get this, a friend who dated a girl recently in Medellin, would not go to a cheap place, would never step foot in a mom and pop place, you would literaly have to drag her in by her feet to get her to go, but had to got to really nice restaurants all the time.  this kindof pisses off my friend, but half of the time, she paid for everything, go figure, but  it didn't last though, she was a nutcase.

[william3rd]

It IS a little different when she is paying from time to time. . . . . .

[Frank Rizzo]

This is very interesting. I know a family that lives in my building in Med. Very high class, very wealthy. The guys that come to date the daughter 20 all have really nice cars (not clios or mazda 6's) and seem to fumble over her. She's ok to good looking with a great personality.

Those same guys would take a girl that is much better looking off the street and give her a sandwich, a spin on the dance floor and 1 hour at their house and then toss her into the street with 40-50k cop. calling her only when they want some fun. Not a prepago, just a girlfriend type.

Social class is everything to the wealthy in Colombia and they talk about it far, far more than we might here in the states. They will not bring a lower class girl to a wedding of a family member or take them to the finca in San Andres for the summer, it's just not done.

[mudd]

social class and skin color is a big thing in Colombia, even though they will never admit it. you think the US has a problem with racism, Colombia has a bigger one, they just hide it more and will never admit it. the upper class will not marry out of their social class or skin color. they make fool around and date a girl from a poor area but marry one, forget it, would never happen.

big stew, did you go next door, to the other agency, just in case you didn't find a girl you liked at LLM

[EbonyPrince]

Reminds me of someone that I met on my last trip to Barranquilla.  This girl told me that she had been in a long term relationship with a guy that really loved her.  I asked her why they broke up.  She told me that she broke it off, because he would never marry her since she came from a lower class family.

[Frank Rizzo]

Interesting posting.

[bigstew33]

big stew, did you go next door, to the other agency, just in case you didn't find a girl you liked at LLM

I have not been next door,  At first guys were disappointed with them, but some guys really like them.  I talked to charlie and his son.  they seen like very legit people.  You wont go wrong with either agency.

[Researcher]

 Hey Big Stew,
       I have been there myself and was a member of "the other agency".As I stated before they both are good agencies.The reason you hear negative things from each about the other is that they were the same agency at one time and now they are competitiors.