Races in Medellin

[utopiacowboy]

My wife is not a good one to ask on this topic.

My son's girlfriend is black and both I and his mother think it's fine. She's a nice girl and he could do a lot worse, black or white. On the other hand, my wife would never approve of her sons dating a black girl. Her youngest daughter is on the dark side and I always joke with her that her father was black and that she should come out and confess that she had been getting something on the side. Needless to say that doesn't go over well but I can't resist giving her a hard time about her attitudes. On the other hand she is always friendly and cordial with black people and we have black friends so I don't know if she's actually racist or not.

[papi]

In my opinion, there is racism in colombia. I have seen it yet i feel the coast is very open to mixed-couples probably since much of the population is black. There still might be racism there yet at the same time also mixed-couples. I think where soltero might have gotten off track yesterday is that i and others were trying to say that a black guy is going to do better in areas where mixed couples are more accepted. Yet, blacks and ALL gringos for that matter will find the fishing more bountiful outside of mde. But for those sports enthusiasts up to a challenge, both black or white - by all means go. Don't let me stop you. Just bring a good set of tackle and plenty of game. i am sure soltero would do just fine no matter where he goes and i would be happy with the leftovers, hold the MSG. Keep in mind that agency paisas are not part of this conversation....

[soltero]

In my opinion, there is racism in colombia. I have seen it yet i feel the coast is very open to mixed-couples probably since much of the population is black. There still might be racism there yet at the same time also mixed-couples. I think where soltero might have gotten off track yesterday is that i and others were trying to say that a black guy is going to do better in areas where mixed couples are more accepted. Yet, blacks and ALL gringos for that matter will find the fishing more bountiful outside of mde. But for those sports enthusiasts up to a challenge, both black or white - by all means go. Don't let me stop you. Just bring a good set of tackle and plenty of game. i am sure soltero would do just fine no matter where he goes and i would be happy with the leftovers, hold the MSG. Keep in mind that agency paisas are not part of this conversation....

Papi, I do not feel that I got off track. I believe that you did when speaking on something that you really know nothing about. Of course, racism exists in Colombia. Racism exists everywhere. You continue to prove that by referring to Black men instead of just speaking on the topic of men in general. If you feel the need to single out Black men, then you are making your comments racist in the truest sense of the word. You may not understand this, because it is something ingrained into society in that people have not evolved enough to be able to look past color when dealing with one another for the most part.

I do not feel that you are an authority on Black men nor an authority on where Black men, nor anyone else can or can't go to find romance. Every individual is different, regardless of color, and women are not all the same. They like what they like.

Black men, Yellow, men, White men, blue or green men, go wherever the hell you want and see what your options are for yourself. Do not listen to any other man when he tells you where you should or shouldn't go.

The only person who can determine where you, specifically, will have romantic success is YOU.

[el_ruso]

Paps,

I disagree again.  I even quoted my girl (who is from Medellin, unlike you or anyone close to you) to disprove that.  Is there racism in Colombia?  Perhaps.  But I strongly doubt that there's more than here.

To illustrate my point futher, I would assume that there is (or at least there was) more racism in the American South.  The only place worse was probably Rhodesia & South Africa.  Sol lives in Atlanta.  I am sure he has either dated or had an opportunity to date white women.  Just my guess.  And Medellin does not have the history of discrimination of Blacks in any manner close to what it was in Georgia.

There are women who would not date Black men.  There are women who would not date White men.  This is not racism necessarily, just a preference.  I am sure you have yours.  My Paisa girl is half-black, and her Mom is white, and according to my girl she actually prefers Black men.  My ex-gf was also half-black, and she was from Cali, but she was very strongly averse to the idea of dating Black guys.

And your insistence on fishing outside of MDE is ridiculous.  Any decent guy will have no problem, whatsoever.  It is already like fishing in a bathtub.  If you feel that in order to fish successfully you actually need the fish fried and on your plate, do not pass your limitations onto others.  Any additional "friendliness" in Cali is a function of its depressed economy and ulterior motives on the part of the girl in question.  Having said that, women in Cali are no worse than Paisas in the looks department.

Paps, you can't possibly be an expert on the dating prospects of Blacks in Colombia or anywhere else.  Imagine if Sol will start telling you where you should not go because you are a Jew.  I don't think you will like it.  I wouldn't.

[P Daddy]

My wife is not a good one to ask on this topic.

My son's girlfriend is black and both I and his mother think it's fine. She's a nice girl and he could do a lot worse, black or white. On the other hand, my wife would never approve of her sons dating a black girl. Her youngest daughter is on the dark side and I always joke with her that her father was black and that she should come out and confess that she had been getting something on the side. Needless to say that doesn't go over well but I can't resist giving her a hard time about her attitudes. On the other hand she is always friendly and cordial with black people and we have black friends so I don't know if she's actually racist or not.

I think it's quite obvious that, if your wife wouldn't approve of her son dating a black girl, she is certainly a racist...I mean this isn't rocket science...she obviously thinks her race is superior and doesn't want her son dating an "inferior" race.   I really couldn't think of any other reason why she wouldn't want her son to date a black girl...what say you, UC??

I always get a kick out of people who say "so and so is always friendly and cordial with black people, so they just couldn't be a racist"...Many slave owners, at times, were friendly and cordial with their slaves...

[soltero]

soltero might have gotten off track yesterday is that i and others were trying to say that a black guy is going to do better in areas where mixed couples are more accepted.

What constitutes a "mixed couple" to you, Papi? I take it that when you are with a Latina, you don't consider that to be a mixed couple or do you?

[blockbuster]

 I have a black friend who is in Russia as we speak. Everyone told him he would have a tough time. But the opposite has happened. Not only is everyone eager to help him when he gets lost or needs help with something. But he has gorgeous Russian woman galore all over. This was not supposed to happen according to everyone who had "warned" him..

 But this guy is 6'3" tall,and so good-looking he has girls throwing themselves at him here in the U.S. all day long. He is just 31. He is in Russia for work, but he has realized he is having a blast over there.

   So the motto to this story is if you are a good-looking man with a great personality, there is nowhere you will go where you won't get attention from women no matter what color. Most men and women prefer attractive people,before they prefer a color. Having a color fetish is weird!

[Kiltboy1]

In Latin America, there is Racism like anywhere else, but what is more predominately the Discrimination is not the Race or color of your skin, but your Social Class and Economic Class. Eveyone here on this forum and other forums like this are a VERY VERY VERY small group of people and i for one would prefer to keep Race issues out of forum discussions because Soletero is correct, you cannot tell someone where a man of color or not can do well or not  because it is all a case by case basis. Let's drop this thread and move onto LATINAS!!!

KB

[Nectar]

I always opted for the road less travelled. While everyone was running to western europe I went to eastern europe. Everyone was telling me at the time how anti american it was over there at that time and I had a blast.
When everyone was running to Costa Rica and Panama I went to Colombia. And everyone was saying how dangerous Colombia was and I had a blast.
Barranquilla is a good place but there Solly is just another swinging d**k. In Medellin he is some one special. It is a no brainer, Solly.
Like I said, mark down whatever Papi advises and DO THE OPPOSITE.
GREAT ADVICE!

[rpcv]

People can always point to examples to illustrate their point of view (myself included) and the subject of "Is there racism in Medellin" can be debated forever. While I am not going to waiver from my belief that there is a color preference in Medellin towards white guys, I'd suggest folks take everything that has been said here in this tread into consideration, visit the city and ultimately make their own judgments.

Blockbuster said having a color fetish is weird but remember the movie "Jungle Fever"?

[Malandro]

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Latinas like blue-eyed blonds.  More details to come....

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[rpcv]

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[blockbuster]

  Color fetish is weird. It means you do not look at the person a whole when you judge him or her.

 There are some cultures where the guys or women are so impressed with a color, marrying a fat white  whale woman  with blond hair blue eyes who is a "B*tch" is considered moving up. while the beautiful ,slim native girl is ignored because she may be dark. If that's not weird what is????To  fall in love with a "color" the person had nothing to do with is ridiculous.

   To admire something and have a preference is normal. To obsess over it and only want to associate with a person of the opposite sex who has that "something" you want shows a very closed mind.

  Even men who say they will never date an AW are closing their minds to potential love. There are so many women here who are of every race and nationslity. So many who are kind,sweet have high cultural values. They are much more difficult to find here, but they do exist.

  To lump them all together and say all women who live in the U.S. whether Asian, Eastern European, African ,Latina are all the same and they will make lousy wives and the only good wives can be found overseas is wrong also.Stereotypes are wrong . But unfortunately, most of us are guilty of them.

[Ray]

I think where soltero might have gotten off track...

Huh? Papi, Soltero isn't the one who has gotten off track.
I think suggesting that Black guys would be better off going to another part of the country is sort of like suggesting that perhaps they would be more comfortable sitting in the back of the bus.

Give it up man!     

[daytrader]

Nectar sez -- Like I said, mark down whatever Papi advises and DO THE OPPOSITE.
GREAT ADVICE!

You're catching on fast Nectar, my sentiments almost exactly. 

DayTrader 

[Diablo]

I can't believe i was late in seeing this topic.

I do know of a black dude that lives in Medellin.

he has a decent retirement plan. so he makes a decent sum of money.

And he has a ball in Medellin.

the key is time, money and language. Race maybe alittle but mostly those three.

[utopiacowboy]

You may be right, P Daddy, although I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. She definitely seems to think the paler the better and this is a common attitude in South America. I'll be watching music videos and commenting on what a fine-looking woman someone like Beyonce or Rihanna is and my wife will notice it and say, you like those dark women, don't you? I'll say, Hell yeah, look at them, they're gorgeous!