OK, one guy's opinion, but...

[Jeff S]

it's from an expat and agency owner over on the Latin board. Plenty of the more experienced guys agree with him too

Why does this happen because Colombians are incessant liars. Even for the most inconsequential matters they want to lie. When I tell the girl what I know and ask her why she did not tell me this and how can I help you if you are not going to tell me everything the typical response is I was embarrassed or I was ashamed to tell you which is the next frequent activity of Colombians, making excuses. People here will not admit to mistakes or take responsibility for anything.

Am I glad I went to Asia.

- Jeff

[rpcv]

it's from an expat and agency owner over on the Latin board. Plenty of the more experienced guys agree with him too

Am I glad I went to Asia.

- Jeff

Jeff- He states people in Colombia do not admit to mistakes or take responsibility for anything but based on the discussions I've had with him on another board "Gringos.com", he is falls into this category too. I could post our entire discussion here but basically the gist was this:

If an agency owner is falsely advertising services/etc, is that owner responsible? My thoughts are yes, because it is unlawful to do so. But as an agency owner, he puts the blame squarely on the client. All is the clients fault. If things go well, it is the client's responsibility; if they go bad, it is the client's responsibility.

[jm21-2]

I had heard the same thing about Thailand, which scared me off a bit, despite me thinking that Thai girls were incredibly beautiful, and me loving Thai food. After observing for a while, I kind of wonder about these sorts of accusations. Do they have any real grounds? How much affect does the observer's opinion have on the verdict? I'm just not sure.

I am thinking it's better to do like almost all the members of this board have suggested and just go to the damn country and figure it out for yourself. Unfortunately I am lacking in both vacation time and money...I just think that no one should be scared off by others' observations (though they should be taken to heart a bit).

[daytrader]

It's from an expat and agency owner over on the Latin board. Plenty of the more experienced guys agree with him too

My take on several of the "experienced" posters on this Board (on the latin threads) are that they are unnecessarily negative.  When asking some of these "experienced" posters  (yup, some of those with the mucho stars -- which I could care less for, since there doesn't seem to be any correlation between wisdom and number of stars in a number of instances) for specifics, they reply with personal attacks and criticism of miniscule points of order. 

My advice is watch the invective fly and ignore it, avoid generalizations,  get multiple sources - especially "boots on the ground" in the city you plan to visit.  Have a good time, enjoy, keep your hand on your wallet, and bask in the cultural differences out there.  Keep in mind you are in 2nd or 3rd World country, so the expectations need to be adjusted in some day to day circumstances that we take for granted in 1st World countries. 

I've enjoyed my trips to SA and plan on relocating down to Cali, Colombia later this year and see how it goes. 

DayTrader

[jm21-2]

My take on several of the "experienced" posters on this Board (on the latin threads) are that they are unnecessarily negative.  When asking some of these "experienced" posters  (yup, some of those with the mucho stars -- which I could care less for, since there doesn't seem to be any correlation between wisdom and number of stars in a number of instances) for specifics, they reply with personal attacks and criticism of miniscule points of order. 

My advice is watch the invective fly and ignore it, avoid generalizations,  get multiple sources - especially "boots on the ground" in the city you plan to visit.  Have a good time, enjoy, keep your hand on your wallet, and bask in the cultural differences out there.  Keep in mind you are in 2nd or 3rd World country, so the expectations need to be adjusted in some day to day circumstances that we take for granted in 1st World countries. 

I've enjoyed my trips to SA and plan on relocating down to Cali, Colombia later this year and see how it goes. 

DayTrader

Some of those Latinas are incredibly hot, and seem like they'd be a lot of fun. I just can't see myself married to a Christian with Christian kids...would drive me nuts. No offense intended, I'm sure many Christians would have some serious problems with raising their kids to be atheists.

[Jeff S]

I'm with Day Trader - generalizations are bad ... but ... national characterizations aren't always baseless. True you have to search for a gem in a haystack of shiny glass anywhere.

I speak Spanish and have been travelling to and working in LA for 30 years, extensively the past 15. I used to run a twin plant operation - one in the US and one in Mexico, both with over 100 Latinas working there of all ages. Now I run a plant in Southern California with, at any given time 50, supplying a plant in LA with over 300. I'd have to say that of the many hundreds of Latinas I've run across in that time, from a dozen or so countries, there were plenty who were hot, but damn few that I ever considered potential wife material.

In Asia it seems to be the other way around. Great wife material seems to be the norm, and hotness the exception, though there are no shortages of cuteness.

Of course, that's just my opinion, YMMV.

I say, no matter where you look outside the US, you're probably going to do far better than anytown USA, where Rosie O'Donnell seems to be the standard that women strive to model themselves after.

- Jeff

[Ray]

Here you go DT,

Here's two more stars for you so you can stop the whining about who has more than you... 

         

[daytrader]

(yup, some of those with the mucho stars -- which I could care less for, since there doesn't seem to be any correlation between wisdom and number of stars in a number of instances)

Thanks for making my point Ray....you obviously don't "get it". 

[Ray]

....you obviously don't "get it". 

Oh, I "get it" all right! You're obviously jealous of those of us who have more stars than you.     

Don't you think it's time you get over this silly obsession of yours and move on to more important things?   

[sean126]

Hey Ray,
You should use your stars for good and not for evil.  roflmao!!

Oh, and thanks alot dude. You just gave me a great idea for a valentines day gift. LOLOLOLOL. 
I wonder how sexy my wife will think I will look in them. Maybe I can sing "my funny valentine" while I'm at it.  Chicks are suckers for a romantic song. LOLOL.

[el_ruso]

The "one guy" who was quoted in the beginning of the thread did not want to justify his statements.  He appears to be a negative person, and my personal experience with latin women is completely different .  I have not dated Asian women (I am just not attracted to them physically except for exceptional cases), but would not say anything negative about them.  However, I completely disagree that Latin women are not the "wife material".  IMO they make great wives in most cases, based on the way they are raised in their culture.  It depends where you look, but I know many Latinas who are married, and in almost all cases they are nothing less than excellent wives and mothers.

[Ray]

Sean, did you say Valentine? Here's another gift suggestion for the Mrs...




Or you could give her chocolate...

[sean126]

  , I think I'll get the chocolate thing. 
Good one dude.

[rpcv]

I say, no matter where you look outside the US, you're probably going to do far better than anytown USA, where Rosie O'Donnell seems to be the standard that women strive to model themselves after. - Jeff

You forgot Oprah and Angelique Jolie. Those two seem to be really popular role models for the women here on the East Coast.

[blockbuster]

 oprah is not exactly a bad role model for women to emmulate as she has done more than her fair share of trying to help people around the world and try to teach people about world hunger and poverty. Her show on Friday was heartbreaking(I was told by a friend to watch) as she revealed child slaves in Ghana and sought for a solution to rescue these kids sold by their own parents for $20.  There was a little boy whose pic made her cry as she read the NY times and knew something had to be done to stop it.That segment is making millions of people aware of how they can make a difference. i haven't seen her do anything as bad as some guys  try to claim.

   Fact is she is now blatently trying to tell  men and women fat is not healthy,so you can't blame her for the fat epidemic either.She does not do drugs  or party and gives all of the credit to her father in terms of turning her around and making her the best person she can be.

If my daughter turned out like Oprah. I would'nt be too upset. The others(Rosie,Paris)  I would. But I think I get much more upset with a majority of women for having the "It's all about me" attitude. When someone goes out of their comfort zone to help others I have to respect that. That's why Oprah should be a source of pride,not despised just because she happens to be an AW.