(This was posted in another thread, but I think it belongs here, as it includes references to the thread's title)
Quote from: z_k_g on Today at 08:52:07 AM<blockquote>Rob,
You apparently don't like Mayweather, I get that.
My question is why are you spending so much time on this guy? That I don't get.
Its obvious you did a bit of research on all of this young man's misgivings, I'm impressed.
Nice job.
But I think you left out a very important point out and what I think is MUCH MORE relevent to P-L and the readers of this forum, because at the end of the day you are comparing Pacquiao and Mayweather, right?
And this website promotes "honest and ethical behaviors" right?
You don't have a clue to what I'm talking about do you?
I'll explain, this won't take much typing either.
Follow closely, I may lose you...
Mayweather is an immature man who can't control his temper. He has anger management issues. I feel sorry for the guy because if you listen to him for more that 5 minutes you can see he has pretty low self esteem.
Kinda sad, but that's the fact. He's extremely rich and talented but also very spoiled and unfortunately he will probably get no help for his problems.
His many arrests and legal issues are the indications of a very self destructive young man.
I predict an ensuing train wreck for the guy, he will eventually implode and destroy himself.
Now, for Pacquiao the Pious, he is a cheater and and a whore monger....end of story.
As one of the most out spoken advocates of high morals and values on P-L,
its very interesting to me that you hold Pacquiao the Pious whore monger in such high esteem.
If any member of P-L exhibited his whore monger behavior you would quickly chastise and write a very long post to admonish the perp.
So why so quiet on Pacquiao and so loud and vociferous on Mayweather?
The End.
Zulu
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Zulu,
This is getting a little ridiculous with your increasingly condescending and even some might call 'cheap shots' on me. They're seemingly indicative of where you're coming from lately. I have said I usually try to respond to reasonable challenges to what I post and I'll give this another try.
Contrare to what you claim (how you would really know, I have no idea) I have read your posts and lately they seem rather one dimensional, to be honest.
Not that
I'm one to run off when people seem to be getting on me aggressively, but I see the way this thread's degenerating and I'm not interested in sending it to the flame room and following it there. I just asoon move onto to topics we can hopefully be more cordial on.
My comments on individuals Pacquiao and up until recently, Mayweather, have by and large been about boxing and their actions in that realm. So yes, I have been comparing them--as boxers. You chose to get into Pacquiao's personal life and not, which I would think only fair since you chose such an approach, to compare it to Mayweathers.
When YOU started with the 'whore monger stuff' and such pap. Did I deny it? Pacquaio's shameful infidelities have been common knowledge for years, especially in his own country.
But once you started posting stuff from the gossip columnists, I thought I'd shed some light on your favorite, Mayweather, stating the factual legal record of his beating on women, as well as on males. There's a lot more dirt I could've dished, but hey--what's the point? I never claimed that either guy was some paragon of morality--not even close.I had made criticisms of Mayweather's dodging tough fights, but even you seem to agree on that account.
Other than his boxing, I don't think there's much that I've said that could be seen as you say, as holding Pacquiao in 'high esteem' as 'pious' or any such thing.
I'll willingly admit that in his last two fights, Pacquaio was not in top form and besides the marital problems he brought on himself, he's not applying himself in training camp lately. The legs are the first to go, my late Uncle, (a Bronx golden Gloves Champion), always used to tell me, and Pacquio hasn't listened to his trainers on leg conditioning. His biggest fans say the cramping's due to overtraining, but I think it's from not listening to his own people. Training harder than you want to and staying away from women before a fight are two of the most cardinal rules of boxing and Pacquiao's seemingly not 'getting it'. And unlike some, I don't think it's some 'plan' to make Mayweather's camp think he's now 'over the hill', ripe and finally ready for the taking.
Mayweather, on the otherhand, has the best legs in boxing these days and shows the best legwork since Sugar Ray Leonard and is at least as good a defensive fighter. Ortiz was hammering Mayweather pretty good though-- I feel the fight was pretty even and that Mayweather knew his bell was getting rung pretty hard and he was more than willing to sucker punch Ortiz to avoid further damage--perhaps even his first loss. I think Mayweather was in great shape and form, but that he underestimated Ortiz, who was a 7 to 1 underdog going in.
If you want to continue this thread in a manner that not only denigrates two professional boxers--who really, being in the public realm are fair game, but also denigrating you and I, I'd rather not carry on on such a vein. I'd rather 'put it there', agree that we disagreed and move on.«
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