The End of Men!

[Brazilophile]

I came across an article about the social decline of men relative to women in the US.  I am particularly interested in the reaction of the ladies on this forum to what the author says,  as you seem to be looking for an American romantic partner.

Here is the link http://www.slate.com/id/2303759/pagenum/all/#p2.

[Kiltboy1]

I came across an article about the social decline of men relative to women in the US.  I am particularly interested in the reaction of the ladies on this forum to what the author says,  as you seem to be looking for an American romantic partner.

Here is the link http://www.slate.com/id/2303759/pagenum/all/#p2.

Better yet the "trend" is that men have gotten tired of women that look like " Mr Rosin  " and continue to exit in droves. The femis can call it what they want, but we are not taking a back seat to them or have giving in to a womans economic riSE , we are just taking an EXIT FROM THEM AND THERE BITTER NAGGING WAYS PERIOD

[Dodgers]

It has nothing to do with the culture change we are happy for the women becoming more independent and making at times more money than men because they are well educated. It's the roll that they don't play. They think they are better than men and at times feel they shouldn't do [snip] around the house. If women can't play the role of a wife... Just because she makes good money I rather have a colombiana chica 1000 times more than a American.
 
 That's why I think people that want something more end up going to Colombia to look for a girlfriend or wife.
 

[InnocentVixen]

"feminine skill set (read: communication skills, social intelligence, empathy, consensus-building, and flexibility)"

I don't think this is a feminine skill set, I think it's part of a leader skill set assuming she is talking about the positive side of this qualities... someone who talks too much does not have communication skills, someone he is overly sensitive is not necessarily empathic and someone who let's their employees arrive late is just not strict.

I've always believed that the handicap offered to women was a bit unfair, but since in old times women were treated unfairly and not taken seriously it was needed to give some balance, I honestly feel the handicap is still being given even though they are on equal ground now and the women that succeed are usually more likely to help their sisters reducing men's options now, in fact men raised by this sort of women might be brainwashed to do the same so it's a pretty big disadvantage.


"Rosin: There were definitely no feminists in my house. My family was super working class. But there was a kind of natural female dominance. My mother definitely wears the pants in my family, and I come from generations where the men disappeared, got sick, died, or for whatever reason, the women wore the pants."

Her situation explains a little about her point of view, you might wonder yourself why so many latinas don't become like this while growing up if a lot don't have a father figure around either... simple, we respect men and even though the mother will take over if the father goes missing, she doesn't take his place, she just assumes whatever extra responsibilities are thrown at her to make things work... keeping her skirt on. Besides, we don't get the extra help from feminists you get, latinas in a way are in fact pushed a little to make the most out of their femininity, you've all seen it, the young pretty ones get better opportunities.

Bottom line, men are not brain damaged barbarians!!! if that was the case why in the world would feminists try to 'man up' to get a decent job and raise children alone? something to think about. As far as I am concerned feminists are trying to become men instead of embracing their gender, but they forget men and women complement each other, by becoming a man they leave their children without a mother, their husbands without a wife.

Might be a bit naive to think this way, but I believe the "end of man" won't affect my future that much, since what I look for is a real man who is not afraid to lead the way, sure it might be a bit harder to find but even the brainwashed ones have potential, as long as they are willing to open their eyes and understand they are not worth more or less than their partner and that team work is to be expected... they are in fact pretty easily converted

[Jeff S]

Yes - just another Gloria Steinham "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" diatribe.


IV - there are very real anthropological evolutionary reasons why women have more empathy, better social skills and flexibility than men. And these aren't necessarily good leadership qualities. In fact they are a disaster in some situations - like the military or even many business situations. Sometimes being the quarterback is not about being flexible and empathetic - it's about individual judgement and decisive action.


In any event there is a great book written by Allan and Barbara Pease, called Why Men Don't Listen and Women Can't Read Maps that is a really funny look at the very real hard-wired differences between men and women. It isn't a touchy-feely Men are from Mars kind of book but a anthropology based plain truth based look. It's neither pro or anti-feminist - just the facts.


http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Listen-Women-Cant-Read/dp/0767907639


My wife and daughter were reading it in Japanese and laughing a lot, so I had to go out and get it in English to see what it was all about - and I'm very glad I did. I'm sure it's available in Spanish.

[michaelb]

I posted this a while back (a year or two ago?) when this subject came up before, but since it's come up again, I'll post it again....from anthropological evolutionary reasons "Why do women talk so much and men so little?".....same reason for both......it scares the animals away. 

[Jeff S]

Exactly.

[no comment]

We men can fight the power by withholding sex, like the Lysistrata. WHO IS WITH ME?!!!


.....okay, never mind.

[Brazilophile]

IV,

Thank you very much for your response.

I am curious about whether there are fewer men in the US who know how to "lead the way" than men in Mexico.  And how do you convert a man into "leading the way" or show a man "how to lead the way", given that he is not already doing so?   

Thanks in advance.

[InnocentVixen]

The converting of this type of men can only be done if it's something they've been repressing but just need a little extra support... you'd be surprised how many there are out there, is not about changing someone but giving them the confidence to be themselves knowing they will not have to fight an army of feminazis for doing so.


I think most of them deep down know they deserve to at least be treated with respect, in Mexico you bet there are a lot more assertive men, but there is also more machistas and bossing around is not my idea of leading the way, I would say it's about the same but from the opposite extremes.