She'll be home for Xmas

[bcc_1_2]

FT baited him and he took it. Hopefully this doesn't end up in the flame room as how often do you read about a honduran girl (sure has been hard for me to find info)?

I remember the last time FT started off with this isn't a flame this is us sitting down to have a beer. The problem is nobody wants to have a beer with the guy. So maybe researcher will just throw the bait back and drop it. Then FT will have to get off the couch and beg his wife to let him back into bed (oh not a flame... pretend its over a corona). 

Back on topic... she made it through her first christmas. We'll see if an when the infatuation wears off. This isn't LA... this is a stunning young latina in Iowa. Land of the fat ass gringa wal mart shoppers. Corn fed my ass.

[sean126]

she made it through her first christmas. We'll see if an when the infatuation wears off. This isn't LA... this is a stunning young latina in Iowa. Land of the fat ass gringa wal mart shoppers. Corn fed my ass.

LOLOLOL...too funny dude.  That is one of the first things my wife noticed.  More over weight people than in her home town.


Also....
Hopefully there will be a moderator here soon to split the posts and keep useful threads from being deleted or moved. 

[fathertime]

    Ray and michaelb, take a read of this post by ft who started name calling, which started all this nonsense.All I have done is respond and also try and figure out what ft's point is.All was fine before ft started this crap.
Researcher

greetings 'researcher',

As far as I'm concerned my thoughts on the post that riled you were valid. Your posts have remained stuck on the ‘I don’t understand’ kick, with a sprinkle of  â€˜woe is me’ to boot.  If this were another thread, I’d continue to hold your feet to the fire, but the thread doesn’t need anymore of your silly skirting of the issue that you yourself raised and you were given plenty of opportunities to respond with whatever your whiny complaint was.  
It is always entertaining how you jabber on and say very little after being challenged a bit...it really isn't that big a deal to just say what you mean for once as ultimately it a lot of the threads are opinion anyway.  Anywhoo have a nice evening!

Fathertime!

[fathertime]

Back on topic... she made it through her first christmas. We'll see if an when the infatuation wears off. This isn't LA... this is a stunning young latina in Iowa. Land of the fat ass gringa wal mart shoppers. Corn fed my ass.

After a while I really don't think kids will care how good looking she is.  Regardless of how attractive she is, her looks alone will not enable her to make children obey her.  If that were the case, I'd have the world's children worshipping all that I touch. As it stands it will take creativity, intelligence, and possibly a firm hand to keep those rowdy & cornfed Iowian kids in line!

Fathertime!

[Fuzzyone]

       Just trying to understand what he is trying to say.Alot of it is nonsense but if he had a valid idea to debate I wouldn't want to miss it. For those of you who don't approve there is a simple solution:If you don't like it, don't  read or view it.


    Researcher

  Like I said before if you do not care then why do you keep this up? You can go ahead and say "I care" because as many times as you have respond to this thread a blind man could see it.!

[william3rd]

  Like I said before if you do not care then why do you keep this up? You can go ahead and say "I care" because as many times as you have respond to this thread a blind man could see it.!

Agreed. this thread has all been personal. Why dont you just walk away? If you can't walk away or at least STFU or stay on point, that says a hell of a lot about you, your personality, etc.

[robert angel]

Regarding

>>After a while I really don't think kids will care how good looking she is<<

Well, you never know! Depends on your kids ages sometimes.

I was more worried about my older family (parents, sibling's) reactions--but they were just fine, despite being somewhat conservative people.

My son is in his first year of college and my wife's about ten years older than him. He's said to be real handsome, he even turned down some modeling offers and has had some real pretty girl friends.

When my wife got here about 4 years ago (also around Xmas time) I got some minor grumbling about how young she looked from him that quickly passed. She looks at least ten years younger than she really is, but is mature beyond her age.

It wasn't until later, when he and his buddies started dating, that I noticed 'the looks' from his buddies. I think that the fact that she's prettier than his and his buddy's GFs kind of irks him a bit.

My wife doesn't dress provocatively, unlike some of the teen girls they hang out with--in fact she rarely wears any make up at all and is quiet and modest. But yea--I'd have to say she's a 'knock out' -- she gets looks out in public but rarely is even aware of the 'wolves' rubbernecking at Walmart, the malls, etc. But there's a subtle vibe that comes from my son and his friends--maybe its an "Whoa--I hope when I grow up and get married--I do as well--a sexy lady who's nice and down to earth too!"

Time will tell...

[soltero]

Hopefully this doesn't end up in the flame room as how often do you read about a honduran girl (sure has been hard for me to find info)?

Bcc, while I am very happy for you, I have written plenty here about Honduran women. My trips there are what prompted me to switch to Colombia and I will never go back as far as searching for any wife material. I can see from the jewel that you were able to find that there are good women to be found anywhere if you are fortunate enough, but my experiences in Honduras were a little different than yours. While the people there are generally friendly (once they know you), they are also EXTREMELY poor on a level that most Colombians wouldn't understand, and bringing a woman from a country that bad off to the first world would be a HUGE mistake. Again, from what you have said about your girl, she seems to have a very special individual, but there is NO WAY I would start selling tickets to that country for anyone in search of a wife as finding what you have found is rarer than finding any male over the age of 12 without a machete strapped to their back!

I wish you much success, and I am sure that you have met a great girl, but I once made a post here a few years back likening going to Honduras to wife search to making an expedition into the jungle and finding a wolf cub and bringing it home expecting it to act like a puppy! I know more than a few Honduran women, and while they are all very attractive, I tend to stay away from the wretchedly poor. Their values and what they are willing to do to keep from ever being poor again is not pretty nor would I wish one as a wife on anyone.

I am not so closed minded as to think all women from any one place are the same, and I am sure that since I have seen you get more than (and give) enough advice on this forum that you should know what's what by now, so I am sure you have chosen well, but any comparisons between Honduras and Colombia would have me never wanting to set foot in Honduras ever again and sticking with Colombia! Just so this isn't a total crack at Honduras, I feel the same about any other ridiculously poor country such as the DR. I think the women in the DR are some of the most gorgeous I have ever seen, but from the multitudes of men and women that I know from there, I could never seriously go there with the hopes of finding a decent wife even though I know there are good women there. The poverty and resulting characteristics that type of life inflicts on the general population would make it like finding a needle in a haystack...

[Dan]

I am busy tomorrow, but will get this topic cleaned-up shortly thereafter.

Looks like a little 'time-out' may be in order for someone(s) as well.

- Dan

[fathertime]

Well, you never know! Depends on your kids ages sometimes.

I was more worried about my older family (parents, sibling's) reactions--but they were just fine, despite being somewhat conservative people.

My son is in his first year of college and my wife's about ten years older than him. He's said to be real handsome, he even turned down some modeling offers and has had some real pretty girl friends.

Well RA that is a horse of a different color.  It would be hard for me to say how an older child would handle a young wife.  It seemed in bcc's case he was talking about grade school aged kids, in which case my feeling is the beauty of his woman will wear off quickly and they will behave however it is they want to behave.  Sounds like bcc feels he has a handle on this, but any thought of relying on the beauty of somebody as a tool to keep kids under control long term just doesn't seem realistic to me.

 

It wasn't until later, when he and his buddies started dating, that I noticed 'the looks' from his buddies. I think that the fact that she's prettier than his and his buddy's GFs kind of irks him a bit.

I'm not too sure why your pretty wife would 'irk' your son.  I would probably be proud of my pop if he was able to pull this sort of thing off.  Maybe there is a competitive or generational issue I'm not keen on. 

Fathertime! 

[Researcher]

     Once again congrats bcc.If anyone has any questions just send me a PM.It would be nice to stay on topic but if anyone has any burning questions I'd be glad to answer them via PM'ing.That way maybe everyone will be happy.



  Researcher

[bcc_1_2]

Bcc, while I am very happy for you, I have written plenty here about Honduran women. My trips there are what prompted me to switch to Colombia and I will never go back as far as searching for any wife material.

but my experiences in Honduras were a little different than yours. While the people there are generally friendly (once they know you), they are also EXTREMELY poor on a level that most Colombians wouldn't understand, and bringing a woman from a country that bad off to the first world would be a HUGE mistake.

Yea you have written about it. My comments of a lack of information are just an overall comparison. I think you were in San Pedro Sula if I remember. Your experiences will be far different in San Pedro Sula and/or Tegucigalpa compared to say Tela or La Ceiba.

You also make a point based on economics. I'd say its a bad idea to try and date the EXTREMELY poor as you put it. You can find the extremely poor all over latin america. A girl with an education (and at least some english) is very important. Honduras is full of has nots... I'll give you that. The way the VAST majority of the population lives is very sad.

My girl just thinks everything is extremely expensive. You mentally convert products to prices back home and well yea she's in shock.

I can't imagine what it would be like if she wasn't already really good with english. While I'm over the moon to have her here.... her adjustment is going to take a really long time. She doesn't go anywhere by herself. I've introduced her to my friend from hong kong (she'll be a great influence)... and of course my mom will take her anywhere. But she doesn't just go call a cab and go do things.

Guys in Honduras are a lot more blunt in their flirtations. When they see something they like... they'll just flat out stare at the girl. Here it is a little more "on the down low" Meaning guys are definitely checking her out but they are trying to conceal it.

Not one guy has ever asked her out (even when she's not with a guy... aka me). But she has commented on it. I think the fact that it is not as obvious in our culture really weirds her out. I just told her what goes down in Honduras might well be considered "sexual harrassment" here.

I'd think if she was with a pack of girls at a club here she'd get plenty of offers to dance... but at the mall or grocery store I think she just appears too intimidating to approach.

Everyday seems to be a new adventure. She's able to keep in touch with family and friends and I really just haven't had to deal with any bumps in the road as of yet.

The DVDs and my book collection seem to keep her busy during the day. But I'm looking to get her a gym membership so she can play futbol. The lady next to us has mentioned loud thuds against the wall during the day.... hmmm I wonder if those thuds might be a soccer ball? 

[soltero]

You are right. I have also found that finding a person who is well educated makes a huge difference. Not only are they more understanding and open minded to change, they are also more able to learn English (again, as most learn English in school as children and then forget it as they grow up through lack of use in both Honduras and Colombia) once they get here. As your girl has a good grasp of English already, she shouldn't have too many problems developing rapidly here. I can understand how the way guys are here could "weird her out". In Honduras, the forwardness is normal. Any guy who was acting subdued could very well be thinking of trying to knock her in the head and drag her behind a bush. That kind of thing is very normal there, so I am sure that her radar for that is pretty well attuned. The coast is different from the major cities. Much more laid back and less stress. The country is a very beautiful place as a whole, but never more beautiful than around the water. Honduras has to be one of the most natural and untouched places I have ever seen, especially around the water. It is like going back in time about 50 to 100 years...

I am sure that your lady will do great here and that you and your family will be able to help her adjust very well.

[Jamie]

Bcc, while I am very happy for you, I have written plenty here about Honduran women. My trips there are what prompted me to switch to Colombia and I will never go back as far as searching for any wife material. I can see from the jewel that you were able to find that there are good women to be found anywhere if you are fortunate enough, but my experiences in Honduras were a little different than yours. While the people there are generally friendly (once they know you), they are also EXTREMELY poor on a level that most Colombians wouldn't understand, and bringing a woman from a country that bad off to the first world would be a HUGE mistake. Again, from what you have said about your girl, she seems to have a very special individual, but there is NO WAY I would start selling tickets to that country for anyone in search of a wife as finding what you have found is rarer than finding any male over the age of 12 without a machete strapped to their back!

I wish you much success, and I am sure that you have met a great girl, but I once made a post here a few years back likening going to Honduras to wife search to making an expedition into the jungle and finding a wolf cub and bringing it home expecting it to act like a puppy! I know more than a few Honduran women, and while they are all very attractive, I tend to stay away from the wretchedly poor. Their values and what they are willing to do to keep from ever being poor again is not pretty nor would I wish one as a wife on anyone.

I am not so closed minded as to think all women from any one place are the same, and I am sure that since I have seen you get more than (and give) enough advice on this forum that you should know what's what by now, so I am sure you have chosen well, but any comparisons between Honduras and Colombia would have me never wanting to set foot in Honduras ever again and sticking with Colombia! Just so this isn't a total crack at Honduras, I feel the same about any other ridiculously poor country such as the DR. I think the women in the DR are some of the most gorgeous I have ever seen, but from the multitudes of men and women that I know from there, I could never seriously go there with the hopes of finding a decent wife even though I know there are good women there. The poverty and resulting characteristics that type of life inflicts on the general population would make it like finding a needle in a haystack...

Excellent post Soltero.

[Researcher]

     bcc_1_2,
          I guess with the increasing popularity of internet dating sites one can even find a gem in a horrible place like Honduras.But that is neither here nor there since you are no longer looking.The longer I am with my lady where she is from becomes more and more meaningless.

          My wife and I just spent our second Christmas together here in the US and I have to say that alot of the time since her arrival has been spent adjusting.Not just for her but me also. I have mentioned before that I know what it is like to live in a different country and this has been a great advantage.Once the novelty of living in another country wears off I found that the little things can start to wear on you on a daily basis.I was in Mexico for about two months before I couldn't stand Ranchero music.At one point I found myself wanting to find whoever invented the acordian and using a baseball bat to give them a wood shampoo.One day I realized that it wasn't so much the presence of the Ranchero music but the lack of my favorite music that was the problem so I went and bought some casettes of it.It wasn't just this way with music but with everything so I set out to find things that I was missing and to explore new things as well.Today there are things I miss about Mexico.

        I figured the same things would work to make my wife's adjustment easier.Before she arrived I got her to pickup some cds of here favorite Colombian music.Also, I found a satelite TV package that includes many channels in spanish as well as Caracol.That way she can keep up with the latest news in Colombia.I started to by the Rosetta Stone software for her to learn english but I thought her taking classes with other people would be better and it was.She has made friends from other countries and I think it helps for her to be around other people who have moved here.These are some of the little things that have made a difference but I think someone's adjustment to another culture depends on them.If a woman is the adventurous type then exploring their new surroundings is an asset.If she is more of a homebody then working on her new home helps.If there is one thing I have learned after living with women it is that they like to build their own nest.My wife has picked out all our new furniture and chosen color schemes and patterns.I was more than glad for her to do that because I have yet to find a woman who thinks of my neon beer signs as home decor like I do.

             My wife also has a sense of adventure.We visit places that I have seen a hundred times but it is all new to her.We have probably visited 5 or 6 different states and she likes to stop at each one's welcome sign to take her photo beside it.We have plenty more to visit of course.As my family has gotten to know her they love her to death and are very supportive.That helps alot.It's been an adventure so far and I'm sure it will continue to be.


   Researcher

[robert angel]

Being a Filipina and already being conversant in English, our language situation is different, probably not as daunting as it is for most LA ladies.

My wife has more of a challenge in written expression. Gender usage, past and present tense usage and expanded vocabulary mainly, some of which I think isn't unlike Spanish. I got her different magazines and books to read and it really took a while to find something she really likes. At first it was the popular but light weight  "Twilight' vampire book series, but she's stepped the challenge level up a notch and is reading all of Nicholas Sparks fine books lately.I think there's just one she hasn't read now--she's read two of his books in just the last 3 days.

Reading helps writing and it's great that when she comes upon a word she doesn't know, she asks me and we discuss it's meaning and various uses. English really is one gnarly language, a single word can have so many very different uses.

Anyway, finding something beyond simplistic magazines like "OK" with loads of pictures, moving to 'real' books--books that she could stay with, and finish with true enjoyment, took a while, but she's really proud of actually reading a whole book in a day or two. I can read a page a lot quicker, but she has the tenacity and desire to read longer and finish.

I see this reading helping her writing and speech vocabulary as well, and most of these books are really USA oriented, thus adding some knowledge there as well.

[fathertime]

My wife and I just spent our second Christmas together here in the US and I have to say that alot of the time since her arrival has been spent adjusting.

I think you hit on a decent point here. 


I think the adjustment has been simple for me and have adjusted very quickly to my woman.  Being that I am in familiar surroundings it makes perfect sense for me.

  I noticed recently my wife’s happiness was greatly increased when we took the 30 minute drive into downtown LA to go to a special ‘ethnic’ supermarket.  Nowadays I am always open to hear about things to make her surroundings a little more familiar and her adjustment smoother.  I believe that I bear the brunt of that responsibility more than I initially thought I would.   It is plausible that I should do a few other things to give her a sense a familiarity.  My wife enjoys the internet and she listens to Colombian UTUBE music often which I think is comforting for her.

Fathertime!

[sean126]

http://www.colombia.com/radio/player.asp?id=136

Here's a link to a popular Barranquilla radio station.  You need to down load the plug in. 

[robert angel]

We got the music, TV and food from back home and a phone service for calling back there.

I almost got a few chickens to run around my property and thought of getting a couple hogs to add a more 'authentic atmosphere', but had some reservations about how my close in neighbors might take it--ha ha.

On a more serious note, I can somewhat gauge just how happy my wife is by how often and for how long she speaks to her family back home on the phone....

[bcc_1_2]

     bcc_1_2,
          I guess with the increasing popularity of internet dating sites one can even find a gem in a horrible place like Honduras.But that is neither here nor there since you are no longer looking.The longer I am with my lady where she is from becomes more and more meaningless.

Is Honduras a horrible place? I'd say the rules are the same to get around Cali as they are San Pedro Sula. Honduras is certainly more poor and can tug more on the heart strings... but I'm not sure Honduras is any more dangerous (well a lot depends on the traveler as well).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL11iSyBR8A

I'd say where you find your woman is a little important. I mean... you will be going back.

You are dead on about the internet (especially with my generation). The best tools are certainly the internet and learning a little espanol so you can go out and converse with the general latina public.

[Researcher]

   As far as Honduras being a horrible place I'm just going by what was described earlier.I've never been there but I have been to similiar sounding places.Where you find your woman isn't as importat as one might think IMO.



   Researcher

[bcc_1_2]

due to the political climate at the time I decided against a return trip to Honduras for a engagement party and none of my family met her until she arrived in the states on her k1. her family and friends kinda had their own celebration but that is it.

Without all her family and friends here her desire for some elaborate ceremony just doesn't seem to be there. I may luck out and it might just be a trip to the courthouse. it seems she blames her country for my family not being able to travel down to meet her family... so all is well there.

the family (well my parents') attorney has handled everything to date and I've pretty much stayed out of it. He wasn't an immigration attorney and he did ok so I'm just rolling with the guy. I had researched on the web about prenups with foreign spouses and it appears he knew all about it as well.

I think if you are willing to admit you are imperfect and might have made a mistake or will make one in the future you can really save your ass. My instructions to him was I don't want to be unfair... just protect myself from a short term train wreck.

So in a month or two I will be a married dude... and I'm not going to complain about avoiding an elaborate ceremony.

My mom keeps saying it would be a mistake not to have at least a semi fancy ceremony. My friend from Hong Kong says if you were going to do a ceremony you should have done it in Honduras. Her advice was to go down to the courthouse and just have a party later.

[raycjs]

bcc

i am happy to here she is adjusting well, i wish you the best,

Ray