I,m Back and it was GREAT

[eracer19]

Hi all,
Sorry this is kinda late. I've been back for about two weeks. My trip was everything I could of hoped for then some more.
Jamie's has got to be the best of it's kind. One hour after I landed at the airport I was sitting at Jamie's in front what looked like twenty of the hotest woman I've ever seen.( really it was 15 but who needs to count). After about an hour my translator took me in to my apartment and ask who if any I wanted to see again. Wow this went on until I had found the one that was meant for me. At Jamie's they take this pretty serious and are very good at what they do. I really could not have been more impressed with his place.
Anyhow, I had to go all the way to South America to find a girl named Betty, But wow is all i can say. Betty is so sweet and nice and and as a friend would say "shes banging".
I found Barranquilla to be really nice. A lot better then I always thought it was. The people were very nice and friendly. But not to many can speak English.
I have already booked my next trip on Dec.11 for Betty's birthday. When your there you take taxes everywhere you go, they don't cost much but it does start adding up by the end of the trip. Oh yea by the way I stayed 9 days and needed every one of them.
And the heat was a little more then I would like everyday, But then again I'm a old fat guy from Pa.

eracer19

[bcc_1_2]

Damn I was shovelin' snow today I could use some warm weather  . Anyways hope you post a full trip report for everyone (including myself to enjoy). If you kept track of your expenses and dont mind posting I think that would be some great info. Just from doing some reading and research you can find some wide ranging numbers on what people spent.

Other than that I'm glad you came away with a serious relationship. And lucky for you that you are able to follow up on it so quickly with a return visit. Hope you keep us posted on your relationship. You are just at the point were you two are dating exclusively correct?

[eracer19]

Hi bcc,
I only have four more days until I'll be there again. I want to get out of this cold too.
Betty is the girl i should have met 35 years ago, wow what a life we could of had.
She is going to be 42 on Dec.14 but she looks 30. We web cam each other every night for about an hour or two. Her sister can read and right English pretty well so she helps. I set her up with 1 on 1 English lessons 5 days a week, so she is learning English fast.
 This trip I'm taking a ring with me, we have already talked about it and have sent in all the paper work to bring her here I have learned how to ask her to marry me in Spanish, that will really make her melt.
The girls down there are really nice and there all hot. I dated a Judge, two Dr's and two lawyers and many many others, one was even a salsa dance instucter wow.  I found that most of the girls I dated had worked there way through collage. And they really seem to like us Americans. Now I'm not stupid and I know that some girls will do anything to get over here, but the girls that I met all had good lives there, but feel that there place is with there man.
As far as cost went, I did end up spending around $5,700. But that was more then i needed. But that was my flight, my apt.,meeting all those beautiful girls food and a translator. This trip will only cost around $1500. There are a lot of ways to cut down though, First off I was there for nine days you may not stay that long or maybe you'll stay longer. But I had a date for all three meals every day I was there, and we always ate at really nice places. I even took Betty's whole family out for Chinese one night. Unless you can speak Spanish well you really need the translator and thats $85. a day plus you have to feed her to. But all in all I was a great time and it has changed my life, so worth every pennie.

eracer19           

[InnocentVixen]

Hi eracer19 , nice to meet you

It sounds like you were very lucky! was this your very first try? I've read that some guys here have gone a few times until they met the right one... did you dated her the whole 9 days or did you dated other women as well? sorry I am so curious but I think you move extremely fast!!

Maybe love at first sight does exist, Felicidades and best of luck to you and Betty.

[pablo]

This trip I'm taking a ring with me, we have already talked about it and have sent in all the paper work to bring her here I have learned how to ask her to marry me in Spanish, that will really make her melt.

Sorry I am so curious but I think you move extremely fast!!

Maybe love at first sight does exist, Felicidades and best of luck to you and Betty.

Racer, (appropriate name)

I have to echo Vixen's comments about you moving too fast.  Why such the hurry to give her a ring and start the fiancee visa process?  Why not take the time to get to know her better on your upcoming trip rather than proposing?  To put things in perspective, would you visit Seattle for nine days, date a number of attractive women and propose to one a few short dates after meeting her?  That would probably not happen in the States so why in a foreign country?

Excuse the unsolicited advice but I would take my time with Betty as nice as she sounds and take it nice and easy.  As good as Jamie's agency is there is certainly no rush in this endeavor.  Too often Gringos visiting foreign women make the mistake of getting engaged/married way too early.

In any event, I too wish you and Betty all the best.

[jmcooper002]

If your so sure that you want to spend the rest of your life with her what would be the harm in courting her for a year or so and make sure she knows you. In addition the fact that she doesn't speak english could cause serious communication problems in the future. Why not let her learn english get to know you better and build a strong foundation for the future. That is my two cents of unsolicited advice. Good luck and congratulations. Just make sure lust doesnt drive you to financial, or emotional ruin. Its impossible to love someone in such a short time.

[bcc_1_2]

racer,

i've got a wingman that speaks better spanish than me and gets great deals on hotels which really helps cut out some of the expenses you mentioned. Sounds like your second trip is priced really well. have fun and be safe. i'd have to echo everyone else. i hope you aren't puting any unneeded pressure on yourself or this relationship. just don't ignore any of those red flags everyone discusses on here.

[Chris F]

So.....your getting ready to marry a woman that you have only known for a short time and that you cannot communicate with unless a translator is present.

Of course...there is no way you would possibly court her a few more times and get to know her even better before  popping the question.


I wish you the best under these circumstances.

[utopiacowboy]

I've been married over five years and my circumstances were not much different than yours, Eracer. I saw my wife's profile on a website in April, 2003 and emailed her daily until I met her in June, 2003. We agreed to marry then and I returned in September, 2003 for the wedding.  I would have married my wife the first time I saw her in the airport in Bogota. She was the most beautiful woman I ever saw and I am still crazy about her. If you are absolutely sure that it's right, there's no point in a several year long courtship. In my case I was never more sure of anything in my life.

[Chris F]

I've been married over five years and my circumstances were not much different than yours, Eracer......there's no point in a several year long courtship. In my case I was never more sure of anything in my life.

His situation is MUCH different then yours Utopia because you never needed a translator to talk to your wife. Your fluent in Spanish.

That is a huge difference when deciding to marry someone he has spent so little time with in Colombia if you cannot communicate with them.

In terms of a courtship that goes on "several years" I agree with you there.

But say a six month courtship before popping the question would at least give him the opportunity to know her a little better.

[bcc_1_2]

Yea hopefully Eracer makes a few more trips down and doesn't jump the gun so to speak. Having poor spanish skills the language barrier is a key issue for me as well. Maybe this is going to make me sound like an a-hole but I'll say it. I'm willing to learn more spanish and will practice, but I doubt I'll ever be fluent. On the other hand I wouldn't bring anyone to the USA that doesn't have a decent command of the language (not at a fluent level but well on the way). If I was in Eracer's position I'd be sending my chica to english classes. If she doesn't stay interested in him and try hard to learn the language I think that says a lot. If she does that says a lot as well.

[Looking4Wife]

I've been married over five years and my circumstances were not much different than yours, Eracer. I saw my wife's profile on a website in April, 2003 and emailed her daily until I met her in June, 2003. We agreed to marry then and I returned in September, 2003 for the wedding.  I would have married my wife the first time I saw her in the airport in Bogota. She was the most beautiful woman I ever saw and I am still crazy about her. If you are absolutely sure that it's right, there's no point in a several year long courtship. In my case I was never more sure of anything in my life.

With all due respect, Utopia, your situation is not the norm for building the foundation for a successful relationship.

You were lucky, blessed, fortunate, and all of the above.  Everybody doesn't live in a place called "Utopia".

Could your instantaneous success be replicated by someone else?  Of course, and there has been at least one other (former) poster who has a similar story.  But why caution someone against being cautious in one of the most important decisions of their life?

As far as "If you are absolutely sure that it's right"... most people are "absolutely sure" when they tie the knot.  That's why they tie the knot.  If what you say were true, divorce would be virtually extinct.

[utopiacowboy]

His situation is MUCH different then yours Utopia because you never needed a translator to talk to your wife. Your fluent in Spanish.

That is a huge difference when deciding to marry someone he has spent so little time with in Colombia if you cannot communicate with them.

In terms of a courtship that goes on "several years" I agree with you there.

But say a six month courtship before popping the question would at least give him the opportunity to know her a little better.

When I began my relationship with my wife, I wasn't fluent in Spanish. In fact I learned Spanish by writing and chatting online with my wife which is why I never used a translator. In the beginning I used the online translators but I quickly outgrew them. When I visited my wife and even after she arrived in the US, we used to always have an English/Spanish dictionary with us at all times and we used to use it often. As a result of this manner of learning Spanish, my ability to read and write Spanish was FAR better than my oral skills. I used to ask people to write things down so I could understand them. Even now, I read novels in Spanish but I can't always understand someone speaking to me depending on their accent.

[utopiacowboy]

With all due respect, Utopia, your situation is not the norm for building the foundation for a successful relationship.

You were lucky, blessed, fortunate, and all of the above.  Everybody doesn't live in a place called "Utopia".

Could your instantaneous success be replicated by someone else?  Of course, and there has been at least one other (former) poster who has a similar story.  But why caution someone against being cautious in one of the most important decisions of their life?

As far as "If you are absolutely sure that it's right"... most people are "absolutely sure" when they tie the knot.  That's why they tie the knot.  If what you say were true, divorce would be virtually extinct.

I wouldn't say it was the norm either but it worked for me. As for being absolutely sure, I think many people, maybe even a majority are NOT absolutely sure when they tie the knot. I can remember telling my brother the night before I got married the first time that I wasn't sure how long it would last. Well it lasted 25 years but it was a very difficult and tumultuous relationship far different from the one I have now which is very harmonious and tranquil. I think a lot of people get married hoping to make the best of it and not absolutely convinced that they have met their soul mate. In fact if you look at most marriages you'll see the result, most people don't seem to be really happy with their spouses.