Lets clear the air

[jim c]

I really don't know where to post this maybe in the Troll room as it is a continueing  disagreement. Recently I have been persecuting a fellow poster by using sarcasm and ridicule. Patrick felt that this poor recipient of my wit was what he thought we need more of. I guess he meant air time because the poster has in four months posted over 290 times Whereas I have posted around 800 times in over five years. That would give him close to 4500 in a five year period.

     He recently asked a few very pointed questions."Why can't we all just get along?"  "I don't know why you are so obsessed with me. Your comments are crude and insulting for no reason."  "I don't understand your hostility, so please fill me in."

     Unfortunately the archives that refer to when he attacked three other posters for being called a fat pig are not available at this time. Suffice to say that he threatened physical violence to  a friend's children. I have called him flabby abby, shamoo and the Prince of Whales. I have done this for several  reasons.  

First his total lack of discipline when teased resorting to gross comments and threats like a scared schoolyard bully.

Secondly his arrogant ignorance which he supports with two trips to Colombia where he does every stupid thing, that one can do there and returns to defend his ignorance and advise others to do the same.

Thirdly He whines and back pedals on every statement he makes like apologizing for making threats. You know the syndrome "I didn't mean it mommy!"

     Why should I take offense to his statements "I will drive by the Pirates house, knock on the door, interupt him from watching his kiddy porn. Then give him a $20 bill so that he can go to the Casas for another 30 minutes and feel like a big shot. That is if he can still get it up.  How'd he get the hook to begin with. Was it ripped off while you were giving a reach-around. How courteous!"  "Did I ever date one of your daughters or granddaughters? Or maybe I dated your wife?" They are the statements of a crude ignorant child.  
     His other statements like inferring The Virgin Mary had anal intercourse and that the men here only date easy women coincide with his lack of respect of social rules. The best statement he made so far is that he would throw his mom in front of a bomb to save his fat miserable ass.

    I am aware of his right to post here and we are no longer required to act like gentlemen.  So I feel that I have the right to plague him and  he can continue to post drivel. If others find this boreing I will cease actions because it is truely like beating a dead horse.

    In one of my recent posts  I indicated that trolls come and go but idiots just seem to linger, using Clay as an example. I would like to propose a Pheonix award for the dumbest poster of the month and would recommend some of our members from WLC to be the Judges. We could hold elections.

 But honestly Gentlemen seting aside  decorum and civility I just want to say. I think Montrealer is a [snip]ing [snip], liar and  a self absorbed adolescent and if he wants to threaten me he can get in line with the other [snip]s I sent to prison. Jim Columbo

[Bueller]

Jim, I think you are right on in your criticism and you should keep it up. With all the cheerleaders in his corner, including unbelieveably Patrick, there is the great possibility of new guys coming in and letting this guy play "expert" to them. He has the right to post what he thinks, but his lack of moral and philosophical moorings in life, his hedonism and solipsism, is staggering. An occasional dose of reality and experience from someone who has some is a good thing.

[Montrealer]

Ok, you want to clear the air?  Let's do this [snip].

Recently I have been persecuting a fellow poster by using sarcasm and ridicule.

Sarcasm is okay and can even get a good chuckle sometimes, but ridicule is never called for.  Making fun of someone being overweight is like making fun of somebody who is missing a leg.  Do you find that humerous?

Patrick felt that this poor recipient of my wit was what he thought we need more of.

I'm sure what Patrick was talking about was having more positivity an the forum along with advice.  I've never stated I was an expert and even tell people whom I do give advice to, to listen to others because everyone has good advice.  I've stated this quite a few times.  I realize I'm no expert, and neither are you or most of the people on here who claim to be, and maybe I did get lucky on my first trip, or maybe am being played like a mandolin, but it's my right to give advice, just as it is yours.  It's the readers job to figure out which advice they want to listen to.

the poster has in four months posted over 290 times Whereas I have posted around 800 times in over five years. That would give him close to 4500 in a five year period.

So I participate more, what's your point?  The same thing can be said about you from a guy that has only posted 100 times in the past 5 years.  In the words of Soltero, I shouldn't respond to everything.  Maybe I shouldn't respond to this post either, lol.

He recently asked a few very pointed questions."Why can't we all just get along?" "I don't know why you are so obsessed with me. Your comments are crude and insulting for no reason." "I don't understand your hostility, so please fill me in."

And you've recently answered ............ nothing!  So how about a [snip]in answer.

Unfortunately the archives that refer to when he attacked three other posters for being called a fat pig are not available at this time. Suffice to say that he threatened physical violence to a friend's children. I have called him flabby abby, shamoo and the Prince of Whales. I have done this for several reasons.

Yes, I made threats.  Everyone knows it.  I threatened Heats kids and I've threatened Papi a while back.  You're not telling us anything we don't know.  I've apologized and realized that my response was over the top.  Although I do think the comments did deserve a response.  So why is it okay to ridicule someone on this forum anyways?  Where does it say internet ettiquette permits name calling when someone is obviously bothered by it?  Paste that link in the rules of this forum for me.

First his total lack of discipline when teased resorting to gross comments and threats like a scared schoolyard bully.

A schoolyard bully?  Were you given to many wedgies in high school?  I believe that the comments were uncalled for about me and my now fiancee.  Recently someone was banned on this forum for trolling someones wife, so I definately think a reaction was in order.  As for the coments about me, damn straight I had a right to react.  If you have something to say to me, come see me in BAQ after March 1st and say it.  If you don't have the spine to say your comments to my face, then don't say them behind your computers firewall.  By doing this, you just show that you lack balls.

Secondly his arrogant ignorance which he supports with two trips to Colombia where he does every stupid thing, that one can do there and returns to defend his ignorance and advise others to do the same.

I may not do everything the same way the majority did things on this forum.  Hell, the only people that did things simular to me, are too afraid to post on this forum.  I've got the emails to prove it.  But just because I didn't do things the way the majority  do them, that doesn't make them stupid.  I did what i felt was right and still feels right.  When I tell my story or give advice to others on this forum, I usually state that there are other people with more experience on this forum and what worked for me, worked for me and is not a guarantee.  If anything was a guarantee, then everyone would listen to your advice and nobody would be having failures.  But it appears alot do.  All I do is try to put a positive turn on things.  When I first started posting and asking questions, I was nearly attacked before anything.  People didn't want to share there advice and only ridiculed me and deterred me from going.  I'm glad I didn't listen.  Because now I have a great woman in my life and am looking forward to the date when she is my wife.  So instead of leaving this forum and not posting, I continued to post and believe that I have given international dating a positive spin that was much needed on this forum.  What have you done lately?

Thirdly He whines and back pedals on every statement he makes like apologizing for making threats. You know the syndrome "I didn't mean it mommy!"

Again, for the 147th time, I over reacted and am sorry.  I am not sorry for taking a reaction, but do apologize for the reaction taken.  You know what, I'm starting to think you are the one behind the coments on my pics.  Are you?

I have called him flabby abby, shamoo and the Prince of Whales. I have done this for several reasons.

First his total lack of discipline when teased resorting to gross comments and threats like a scared schoolyard bully.

Secondly his arrogant ignorance which he supports with two trips to Colombia where he does every stupid thing, that one can do there and returns to defend his ignorance and advise others to do the same.

Thirdly He whines and back pedals on every statement he makes like apologizing for making threats. You know the syndrome "I didn't mean it mommy!"

So if I undertsand, you are calling me fat because A) Because when I am teased I make gross comments and B) Because I give advice from my experiences (Oh man, I must be huge then) and C) Because I am man enough to admit my mistake, then I must be fat.

Do you ever listen to yourself?  Your reasoning doesn't only not make sense, but makes you sound like an idiot.  Maybe you should go back to the drawing board for reason why it's okay to insult me.

Why should I take offense to his statements "I will drive by the Pirates house, knock on the door, interupt him from watching his kiddy porn. Then give him a $20 bill so that he can go to the Casas for another 30 minutes and feel like a big shot. That is if he can still get it up. How'd he get the hook to begin with. Was it ripped off while you were giving a reach-around. How courteous!" "Did I ever date one of your daughters or granddaughters? Or maybe I dated your wife?" They are the statements of a crude ignorant child.

You're right, these coments are so bad and uncalled for, but not "flabby abby, shamoo and the Prince of Whales", those are acceptable.  See if you can spot the hypocrisy in that sentence.

But honestly Gentlemen seting aside decorum and civility I just want to say. I think Montrealer is a [snip]ing [snip], liar and a self absorbed adolescent and if he wants to threaten me he can get in line with the other [snip]s I sent to prison.

Well, it's a good thing you set aside your decorum and civility for this coment, because you had so much earlier.  If you want to make coments like the ones you've been making, then fly to Montreal or meet me in BAQ during March 1-15.  If you have any balls to make the coments to someones face, or can you only make them from behind your monitor and firewall like a 12 year old?




Again, I don't know why you have a hard-on for me and are so obsessed with me and my actions.  Do I turn you on or something, because I don't go that way.  You feel the need to provoke me and poke at my weight.  Well, guess what, I'm overwieght by about 30 lbs, the same amount you are overwieght, so what does that mean?

The bottom line is, you keep calling me along the lines of a child and inmature, when I am the 28 year old, and you are the 40 something (if I remember right) who is flaming on a public forum about international dating about a guy giving advice on international dating?  Again, I don't see the logic.

You need to start taking your medication and relax a bit or your going to give yourself a heart attack.  Stop worrying so much about what I do and to whom I say it, unless its to you.

This whale ain't biting the hook!

[Montrealer]

And Bueller, I never told anyone I was an expert, so STFU.  I've only given advice based on my experience, which I think that is what this forum is about.  You've given advice to people on this forum also, do you qualify as an expert?

As for your solipsism comment, I don't agree.  I realize that you exist, I just couldn't care less.

[Montrealer]

And Hooker,
Since you like to go back and look at past posts for topic fodder, I decided to do the same.

Of the past 14 messages, all of which have been done since the start of the new forum, I noticed the following;

13 of the 14 had insults without any true advice

12 of the 14 had insults directed at me

Can anybody say the word "OBSESSED"?  You have an issue with me and I don't know what it is, but I am starting to fear you could move to stalking me?  Then to top it all off, you go back and copy a bunch of quotes from my past messages, and disect them one by one.  What is your obsession?  Has it been that long since you got laid that you need to lather all your attention on me?  If so, send me your paypal ID and I'll send you that $20 for a casa visit.  Truly, I pity you.

[Brazilophile]

his hedonism and solipsism,

I tried looking up the word 'solipsism' in my Meriam Webster dictionary.  I couldn't find it.  What does it mean?

[Montrealer]

Solipsism, if I remember correctly, means thinking that the whole world revolves around you.  And that nothing else is real, but only exists for you.

The definition above is only my best recognition of the word.

[Bueller]

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/solipsism
Etymology: Latin solus alone + ipse self
: a theory holding that the self can know nothing but its own modifications and that the self is the only existent thing

 Quoting Montrealer:

"If radical Islam does come to Canada and I feel threatened, I'll just leave. Ain't no way my country is more important than my life. My life is the most important thing in the world to me. I would have to draw the line on dying for my country. Many other Canadians would disagree, but I couldn't care less about other people when my life is in jeopardy'd. I'd throw my own mom in front of a bomb to save my life."

[Montrealer]

Just because I value my life more importantly than anyone elses, doesn't mean that I don't acknowledge there existence.  It just means that I believe my life is more important to me than anyone elses.

If there was a choice of you dying or someone else dying (with maybe the exception of your children) wouldn't it make sense that you would want to live and be willing to sacrifice someone elses life for you own?  If you disagree, then you really don't think much of your own life.

[fathertime]

"Maybe the exception of your children"

Maybe! Sometimes I do wonder if you are real.   :lol:

BTW How the hell do I quote directly from what you said, everyone else seems to have mastered it but me damnit :oops:
Fathertime

[flipflop]

To this Yooper Jim c is a troll,  thats anyone who lives below the Mac. His treatment of Montrealer was deserved and appropriate considering the context and mission of this forum. My chase around the world probably resembled montys more than what is regarded as the correct way of approaching this endeavor, but I wouldnt reccomend it to anyone.  With 2 children, my foreign bride about to graduate with a bachelors in Accounting (straight As) and a 4 year marriage going as beautiful as I could have hoped I dont feel a need to defend how I got here.

I come to the forum specifically to read Jims scathing wit and burning sarcasm and possibly help others if Ray isnt around. I hope he can find a way to continue without  scaring off the people who need the information and supprot we offer .

[EbonyPrince]

If radical Islam does come to Canada and I feel threatened, I'll just leave. Ain't no way my country is more important than my life. My life is the most important thing in the world to me. I would have to draw the line on dying for my country. Many other Canadians would disagree, but I couldn't care less about other people when my life is in jeopardy'd. I'd throw my own mom in front of a bomb to save my life."

First of all, I wouldn't let any man determine my existance.  No man is going to chase me from this soil.  I have too many ancestors that gave their blood to be that casual about the country I love.  If radical Islam came to the US, they would definately have a fight on their hands.  I don't feel that is being extreme.  I know how I felt when 9/11 happened.  I still remember that day exactly and where I was.  I was more angry and revengeful as opposed to being hurt.  This land and people mean too much to me.  I would rather die for what I believe as opposed to living on my knees.

[Montrealer]

FlipFlop,
If your way reflected mine with any simularity and it worked, why wouldn't you recommend it to anyone else?  From what I have read by many on here, the methods that they suggest have not led to many success stories.  If something works, then why is it a bad recomendation.  I think it could easily be used as a good lesson to others with the proper warnings.

[flipflop]

monty, no matter how you do this there will always be a stigma attached. While your help here is appreciated its probably best to keep quiet about the details of your love life. Im not interested in convincing anyone here that my way was right or wrong, my wife is a foreigner and therefore will always  be a MOB in the eyes of others. The sooner you learn that and clam up the better.

[Montrealer]

Point taken, I will clam up about my love life.  I took advantage of the anonymity of this forum a bit too much and posted some stuff that maybe in retrospect I shouldn't have.  Other than that I will continue to share my stories of my success and my adventure, for the sole purpose of helping other newbies that may have had simular questions I had prior to my trip that I could never get an answer for.

[doombug]

First of all, I wouldn't let any man determine my existance.  No man is going to chase me from this soil.  I have too many ancestors that gave their blood to be that casual about the country I love.  If radical Islam came to the US, they would definately have a fight on their hands.  I don't feel that is being extreme.  I know how I felt when 9/11 happened.  I still remember that day exactly and where I was.  I was more angry and revengeful as opposed to being hurt.  This land and people mean too much to me.  I would rather die for what I believe as opposed to living on my knees.

Bravo!  I heartily concur.

[Joeylikey]

Been gone for a month and nothing has changed. Why are we back on this subject. NEXT, PLEASE.

[Cali James]

Been gone for a month and nothing has changed. Why are we back on this subject. NEXT, PLEASE.

Well the last post on this topic before yours was more than 2 weeks ago.    Good job bumping a dead issue up to the top.